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anyone had these?

Posted by hlsess, Nov 1, 2010.

I am having a jewelry show this week and I am not a big wine drinker- so I went to our local grocery and asked the wine speicalist for a reasonable but good wine- he recommeneded Ventana(chardonnay) and Orsini(pinot grigio)- anyone had these?


Reply by outthere, Nov 2, 2010.

You can do better for the money. Bonterra Chardonnay for $10 is a much better deal than the Ventana. Never heard of Orsini PG. Pinot Grigio tends to be a pretty bland bottle of wine unless you plunk down $20 or more. Breggo does a real nice one. So does Chalk Hill.

Reply by hlsess, Nov 2, 2010.

thanks- Ventana is on sale this week for 9.99 down from 15.99 and orsini is 8.99 -he says alot of people really like it-I'll check prices on the ones you recommend though

Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Nov 2, 2010.

I'd skip Pinot Grigio altogether.  It tastes like nothing. 

Reply by Richard Foxall, Nov 2, 2010.

Some pinot grigios taste quite good, like the Bell Willamette Valley that has a citrusy (mostly toward grapefruit) appeal and chenin-like acidity.  We had J pinot gris at our wedding many years ago and it was very good.  But as a varietal, it's dicey at best. 

Ventana makes some very nice wines, IMO--the Rubystone rhone knockoff is good especially for the QPR, and, when they make it, they have a very good cab franc.  (But good luck finding it--they only produced it under the old regime when the grapes were perfect for standing on their own.) There was a recent sale (within the last three to four years) by the founders.  Bottles with the old labels went for cheap as the new owners changed the cosmetics. 

At that price, I would expect nothing from the pinot grigio without tasting it first.

Reply by hlsess, Nov 2, 2010.

I was at another store and they were having a good sale -half off a bunch of wines so I ended up with 2 bottles Yellow Tail- Pinot Grigio- a friend said that she liked it-1-Vendage Chardonnay and 2-Bogel Cabernet Savignon- it is for a jewelry show so it'sot that big of a deal to have the best stuff there is out there

Reply by dmcker, Nov 2, 2010.

How shall I put it? Yellowtail is crap. And I hate to see people who care about wine enough to ask for advice here support it in the marketplace.

People have various opinions about Bogle, but it's better than the Yellowtail, by a fair margin.

How did you find your experience shopping for wine at the markets? Easy, difficult, frustrating, satisfying? And what did you want from the staff there that you didn't get?

Hope your show goes well.....

Reply by StevenBabb, Nov 3, 2010.

i'm curious about what market you went to, and if the employee was a "clerk" or a wine specialist...

GDD... i'm going to have to disagree with you on this one... there are some pretty tasty (not life changing, or knock your socks off) pinot grigios from northern italy, if you take the time to taste and find them... also from oregon... after all, this is for a light hearted jewelry party... something palatable to sip on... not enter into a competition...

and for the price point, dm, i'm an "overall" fan of bogle...

Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Nov 3, 2010.

Disagree all you like.  I've never experienced one, and, with Italy being my favorite country to drink from, I've quite possibly tried over 300 of them.  I'll stick to Greco, Falanghina, Friulano, Arneis, etc. if I want crisp Italian whites.

The OP could spend the same amount of  money and get something interesting (although possibly not at the grocery store).  I'll stand by the fact that all, as in each and every, grocery store Pinot Grigio will be garbage.  I don't serve my guests garbage, be it for a  jewelry party or "competition".

I feel the Bogle is fine, don't know what Vendage is.

Reply by StevenBabb, Nov 8, 2010.

i'm a huge fan of falanghina and arneis... but its also good to know your audience... if you were to set three bottles in front of the average, novice, wine drinker... pinot grigio, falanghina, arneis.... i'm willing to bet they grab the pinot grigio... 90% of the time?

accessability is also a factor when you are giving someone advice.... indiginous varietals are always easy to find...

Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Nov 8, 2010.

Possibly, except there are so many people that hate PG and realize it tastes like water (even newbs).  So I'd say maybe 50% of people would go for it, maybe.

I may just be lucky near Boston, but I can find multiple examples of the varieties I listed above at an average booze store.

Reply by StevenBabb, Nov 8, 2010.

we could go round and round on this, i'm sure....

i'll have to make a trip to boston next time i'm on the east coast... even in the average liquor store in san francisco, one does not find multiple examples of fiano/falanghina/arneis... wine shops, sure... but not the average corner store...

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