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Snooth User: Stephen Harvey

Aussie Wine in the US

Original post by Stephen Harvey, Feb 7, 2017.

I am hoping to get some input on what Aussie wine the Snooth Community is seeing on the shelves [either retail or restaurants] in your local areas.

US wine in Australia is still very much limited to the bigger wine companies eg

Argyle Pinot Noir

Stags Leap

Berringer

Etude

Occasionly the big guns from Napa will appear on the Auction Sites.

I am always happy to give any recommendations if you are looking for an Aussie experience

Now I am back doing some posting I will keep my eye out for US wines over here and see if any you think are worth me having a look at.

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Reply by GregT, Feb 8, 2017.

Somewhere I have a few bottles JD, so we can try them. Again, it's not a great Brunello but ignoring that, it's not a bad wine. My impression is that they didn't nail it, but I give them credit for trying. The oak is maybe more than they needed and the specific acidity that you get in Tuscany isn't there.

But what does that mean? It's like Malbec in Mendoza vs Malbec from the Loire. I really think that they just need to see how it's going to do in some region in Washington and deal with it as something that has no antecedent. And who knows, blend it with some crazy shit. I told you about the Hungarian guy growing Sagrantino - why not? See what happens!

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Feb 8, 2017.

These are available at auction here

AU BON CLIMAT, La Bauge Au-dessus Pinot Noir 2009 and 2010

 

RIDGE VINEYARDS, Monte Bello Cabernets 2005

 

Verite La Muse - Merlot Cabernet Franc 2007,2008,2009

Verite Le Desir - Cabernet Sauvignon 2007,2008,2009

Verite La Joie - Cabernet Sauvignon 2008,2009

Joseph Phelps Insignia Cabernet Sauvignon 1994

Cardinale Cabernet Sauvignon 2007,2009

 

The is also a bunch of Opus 1's and Robert Mondavi wines

 

Any worthy of me trying and happy to take price advice USD ok

 

 

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Reply by dmcker, Feb 8, 2017.

MonteBello is always worth going for, depending on the price. What's the reserve, or are there any guidelines or action so far? Mondavi (before early last decade) is a better call than the Opus One. You can give O-1 a miss unless there's a real reason to present its label to someone. You might also find the '94 Insignia interesting, depending on its price. OT will need to speak to the Verite.

JD, give that Leonetti a shout. No need to hesitate on that stuff.

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Feb 8, 2017.

Mondavis - 77,81,83 94 Ealy ones looking 100 94 - 200+

Monte Bello -120ish

Insignia -220

Verites in 400+

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Reply by dmcker, Feb 8, 2017.

Monte Bello yes.

'77 Mondavi would be a treat. All bottles in good shape? '81 / '83 also would be a nice vertical. Depends on provenance, of course.

'94 horizontal with Insignia and Mondavi might also be informative for you and some mates.

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Reply by rckr1951, Feb 8, 2017.

Stephen - Since 2007 I have I have purchased at least 269 bottles of Aussie wine and drank 247.  I didn't realize that until this thread.  A sampling of Vintner's Include:

Heartland Stickleback

Langmeil

Jacob's Creek

Penfold's

Oliverhill

Clarendon Hills

Hewiston

Schild Estate

Chateau Tanunda

See Saw

Kilikanoon

Tait

Imprimata

Yalumba

Chocolate Box

Mollydooker

d'Arenberg

Zonte

Tournon

Pepperjack ...anf the list goes on and on. One of the best wines I've ever had had was the  Cascabel Shiraz Fleurieu Peninsula South Australia 2006.  Have you ever seen it.  I haven't seen it stateside in 7-8 years?

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Feb 8, 2017.

Haven't seen Cascabel for a while - some of the wineries are doing export only wines or have majority of wines going export

Molly Dooker has a very US centric business model which seems to work well for them

d'Arenberg are doing some interesting things and its worth looking at their "Rubic's Cube" Cellar Door Restaurant development.  If you ask why - the answer will be apparent if you meet Chester.  however they do make great wine and CHester's father d'Arry was a pioneer in the McLaren Vale region.  They make a really good quaffable in their d'Arrays Original which is a grenache blend

Yalumba are a great family business - now moving to 5th generation Barossans.  They have forged a lot of global relationships with family's like Guigals, Pol Rogers, Gaja's and are their importers into Australia.

Dean Hewitson makes some great wines - his sons play Aussie football with mine

Torbreck is intersting, they are owned by Peter Kight who is a Californian "billionaire" from the Dot Com era. He owns Quivira which is in Healdsburg CA

Not sure if anyone has tried the Quivira Range?

Torbreck make some very good Barossa Shiraz and I know it is available in the US

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Reply by JonDerry, Feb 9, 2017.

How about Yarra Yering Stephen?

Just heard some good things from a friend in the wine business, he's out of Kentucky.

 

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Feb 9, 2017.

The make some seriously good wine

The Dry Red No 1 is my Favourite its its a classic Bordeaux Blend

The Dry Red No 2 is more Rhone Style Shiraz Viognier

Underhill above is excellent as well

They are around the 80-100 mark here but if you spend that amount they are worth it 

BUT

They do need at least 10 years - 04 Underhil should be in a good place

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Reply by rckr1951, Feb 9, 2017.

JD - I'm jealous

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Reply by dmcker, Feb 10, 2017.

So Stephen, have had a number of YYs multiple times over several vintages before, and am with you on the analysis. But my question: they make cheese in that part of Victoria, too?

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Reply by JonDerry, Feb 10, 2017.

Found the 2010 Red Wine No 2 for about $65/bottle. Sounds like a winner.

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Feb 12, 2017.

Yes a reasonable cheese region

USD65 for No 2 is reasonable 10 was an excellent vintage

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Reply by amour, Feb 27, 2017.

By the way...I was having lunch in Miami at the Four Seasons Hotel and saw that LEEUWIN ESTATE Chardonnay is available there by the bottle........at a price!!!!

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Reply by rckr1951, Feb 27, 2017.

AMOUR - I can imagine - with mark up it must have quite a price.

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Feb 27, 2017.

If it is the Art Series then I imagine it to be around USD150-200+ in a hotel like 4 Seasons

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Reply by amour, Feb 27, 2017.

$225

I am not complaining, though.....

it all depends on the factors faced by the specific individual in the dining setting....like everything else....

LOOK AT WHAT I PAY FOR SAUTERNES WHEN I AM OUT.......haha!!!!!!....for the pleasure of the moment....or for Didier's wines!!!!!!!!

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Reply by amour, Feb 28, 2017.

At another restaurant, I saw d'Arenberg- THE LAUGHING MAGPIE-Shiraz/Viognier, Mc Laren Vale and also another wine called, DEAD LETTER OFFICE!

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Reply by amour, Feb 28, 2017.

Do you know that WINE SPECTATOR March 31 issue will feature Australia heavily?

ARTICLE BY MARYANN WOROBIEC----Rediscover Australia!

Clearly, there is a fresh energy evident on the Australian wine making scene!

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Feb 28, 2017.

D"Arenberg make an artform of creative/silly ladels but they make excellent wine

Laughing Magpie is not too bad for its price point

If you look at their website

www.darenberg.com.au

you will see their assortment of labels



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