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Snooth User: Stephen Harvey

Aussie Wine in the US

Original post by Stephen Harvey, Feb 7, 2017.

I am hoping to get some input on what Aussie wine the Snooth Community is seeing on the shelves [either retail or restaurants] in your local areas.

US wine in Australia is still very much limited to the bigger wine companies eg

Argyle Pinot Noir

Stags Leap

Berringer

Etude

Occasionly the big guns from Napa will appear on the Auction Sites.

I am always happy to give any recommendations if you are looking for an Aussie experience

Now I am back doing some posting I will keep my eye out for US wines over here and see if any you think are worth me having a look at.

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Reply by rckr1951, Apr 7, 2017.

Getting ready for our Australian tasting tomorrow night, but 1st some recently purchased wines and lastly my oldest Aussie:

The Bin 28 Penfolds Kalima Shiraz

The Yalumba Eden Valley Viognier '15.

It may not be the best, but it solid and I've been drinking it and likng it for years. I remember how good the '07 and '10 were. The Yalumba Old Bush Vine Grenache '15.

The Leeuwin Estate "Art Series" Margaret River Cabernet Sauvignon '12.  I've had their chards but never their cab - it comes highly hyped and well received.  So....

Lastly, the Jim Barry The Cover Shot Cabernet Sauvignon Coonawara '10.  The oldest wine from Oz in my cellar, granted I'd forgotten and moved it around so it all wasn't on purpose, but surprises are nice.

Should be an interesting night, don't kow exactly which of these 4 we'll drink, but Ill come back on Sunday and let you know how it went.

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Reply by vin0vin0, Apr 20, 2017.

Stephen, we opened up this Yarra Valley pinot tonight. This has loads of ripe black and red cherry, vibrant acidity and a fairly long and clean finish.  Not as much dark fruit as a typical Russian River pinot but a bit heavier body than your normal Willamette Valley offering.  Drinking quite nicely at a very reasonable price point of around $20.

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Reply by rckr1951, Apr 23, 2017.

Steve - What do you know about this?

I found it in the mostly unlikely place - never heard of it and know nothing about.  It has 4th vintage on the back label, but no vintage and 14.8% alc.  When I check online they show vintage (2013 is most common) so would this be older?  No idea.

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Reply by vin0vin0, Apr 23, 2017.

RCKR, first off, congrats on finishing up your rad therapy!

I checked on CellarTracker as well as wine-searcher, they both show vintages '12-'15 for that Jacob's Creek Double Barrel Shiraz as well as a non-vintage.  Can't really tell if this is truly a NV bottle.

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Reply by rckr1951, Apr 23, 2017.

Me neither, but thanks for the checking and the kind thoughts.

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, May 15, 2017.

sorry for late response

Double Barrell is definitely a vintage wine

Double Barrell is named as such as matured in old whisky barrells

Selling very well in Australia - I don't mind it but Pernod have plenty that i prefer

 

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Reply by rckr1951, May 15, 2017.

Thanks for the response - now I wonder how I can find the vintage or bottling date.

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, May 17, 2017.

Going to a Cabernet Degustation next Wednesday

The Wine line up

Australia

 

Cullen Diana Madeline 2015 98 Points - Gary Walsh The Wine Front

Mount Mary Quintet 2014 96+ Points - Gary Walsh The Wine Front

Rockford 'Rifle Range' Cabernet Sauvignon 2014 94 Points - Gary Walsh The Wine Front

Lakes Folly 2014 95+ Points - Gary Walsh The Wine Front

 

USA

 

Matthiasson Oak Knoll District Cabernet Sauvignon 2012

Mount Brave Cabernet 2012 92 points Robert Parker's Wine Advocate

Mt Eden Cabernet 2012 94 Points - Wine Advocate

Stonestreet estate 2013 91 points Vinous

 

NZ and South Africa

Dombeya Fenix 2009

KLEIN CONSTANTIA ESTATE RED 2014

TE MATA ESTATE 'COLERAINE' 2015 96+ Points - Gary Walsh The Wine Front

PURIRI HILLS RESERVE 2008 95 Points - Gourmet Traveller Wine Magazine

 

French

 

Chateau Latour Le Pauillac de Latour 2010 93 points Robert Parker's Wine Advocate

Prieure-Lichine, Margaux 2005 94 Points - Gary Walsh The Wine Front

CHATEAU MONTROSE, 2nd growth St-Estèphe 2005 97 points Robert Parker's Wine Advocate

Chateau Palmer, Margaux 2000 96 Points - Gary Walsh The Wine Front

 

Any comments on the US flight [or the others] from the forum 

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Reply by dmcker, May 18, 2017.

Fine line up, Stephen. Color me envious. Is this sit down with food, or...?

What can you tell us about Gary Walsh?

Pretty good when a chateau's 3rd label can get a 93pt. ranking.

Will be curious to hear your opinion on the Constantia red. And the other wines, too, of course, especially from Oz and Kiwiland.

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, May 19, 2017.

Definitely sit down

Aussie WIne Writer - not one I follow closely

Will update post the dinner

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Reply by dmcker, May 19, 2017.

Look forward to it.

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, May 24, 2017.

Getting prepared for the night tonight as set out above

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Reply by dmcker, May 24, 2017.

Bonne dégustation!

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, May 24, 2017.

The Menu

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, May 24, 2017.

The beginning

We were at Georges on Waymouth at 10 Waymouth Street in the centre of Adelaide, conveniently across the Road from my office

My Guests Ryan Klose a client and also a Barossa Grape Grower with family Shiraz grapes going into Rockford Basket Press and my oldest son Michael

Started with a Peroni Legere [mid strength] to wash down the days coffee and then a gladd of Drappier NV Champagne

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, May 24, 2017.

Round 1 = 3 x NZ and 1 x South African

The Man o War is from Waiheke Island near Auckland is a Bordeaux Blend and is Merlot and Cabernet Franc dominant

I very nice easy to drink red wine surprisingly fresh for its 6 years probably should be drank by 2020 but certainly a nice start

The Te Mata Estate is from Hawkes Bay 54 CS 36 Mer 10 CF

Lots of nice Black Current overtones but very young and needs time in the bottle, certainly would like to revisit in 7-10 years

Purri Hills from Clevedon - Merlot dominant

Certainly a very nice more mature wine softer tannins than younger wines but certainly has the fruit backbone to age a bit more - developing some nice savoury charateristics

The Klein from Constantia  - Bordeaux Blend but not disclosed

The surprise packet of this set - a very drinkable fruit driven wine which proably is at its peak young

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Reply by dmcker, May 24, 2017.

Any guess about the Constantia content, and further impressions? Haven't had it, and am curious.

Nice menu, and mixture of cab blends. What was in the chestnut leaves that accompanied the CA cabs?

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Reply by rckr1951, May 25, 2017.

Here you guys - 58% Cabernet Sauvignon, 19% Shiraz, 14% Petit Verdot & 9% Malbec.  According to what I read this is a reintroduction of shiraz into the blend.

Their tasting notes: Intense red and black fruit with elegant notes of cinnamon spice on the nose. The palate is full bodied and savoury with a well-integrated oak component, ending with a long and rich finish.

How did that match up?

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Reply by jackwerickson, May 25, 2017.

Steve did you happen to see the article in wine searcher about Tom McDonalds Church road winery. The writer indicates that Toms wine beat a chateau Margaux, and if it had had the exposure that the Judgment of Paris had Hawkes Bay might be the go to for Cab in the new world. The wine does not seem to be avaliable in the U S

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, May 25, 2017.

Round 2 - 4 x Aussies

Excellent Group of wines

The Cullen is from Margaret River in Western Australia - a biodynamic wine [not that i particularly have a view on these techniques] Cullen is a CS 87 Merlot 11 Malbec 1 CF 1 Blend

Obviously too young to be at itsbest but the fruit and tannin structure delivers an outstanding young wine which will age for at least 20 years about AUD100 retail

Mount Mary Quintet is from Yarra Valley in Victoria and is the 5 grape Bordeaux Blend - this was the wine of the flight and despite its youth was beautiful to drink.  The MM's age exceptionally well and good vintages comfortably get to 20-30 years.  Retail AUD140

The Rockford Cabernet is a Barossa CS and is a good wine but not a great wine from my viewpoint.  Barossa does do some very good cabs but SHiraz is their main focus with Grenache being a solid second.  Usually retails for AUD60

The Lakes Folly is aptly named as it is a Hunter Valley CS and Hunter does struggle to get CS ripe due to onset of rain during the picking season.  But this wine does somehow make it into bottle as a persuasive wine each year.  Probably a little lacking in depth and slightly lighter in style for my palate but still OK - Howver plenty of much better wines at AUD100



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