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Snooth User: John Andrews

Bordeaux Futures

Posted by John Andrews, Jun 24, 2009.

Seeing Greg's email about Bordeaux futures made me think about potentially looking to purchasing futures this year or in the future. Before I do, I wanted to ask people about their experiences and things I should know.

For example:

- are there minimums? 3, 6, or 12 bottles?
- did you have to pay everything up front or just put a deposit?
- what were you're hidden gems?
- did you get the wooden case with the wine?

Thanks,
John

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Reply by Philip James, Jun 24, 2009.

John - did you read the snooth emails that were co-authored by jancis robinson? she calls our her bargain sleepers of the vintage. let me go find the links for you

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Reply by Philip James, Jun 24, 2009.

http://designshop.snooth.com/merchandising/042109.html
http://designshop.snooth.com/mercha...
http://designshop.snooth.com/mercha...

Her value region picks came from: Côtes de Bourg, Lalande-de-Pomerol, Côtes de Castillon, Entre-Deux-Mers and Côtes de Bordeaux.



The emails are very helpful

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Jun 24, 2009.

As to your questions, yers ago you had to buy futures by the case, then some retailers began offering 6 bottles lots but now I see virtually everyone offering futures by the bottle, what a logistical nightmare!

You must pay in full, though on retailer here in NY used to only accept payment once they physically took possession of the wines.

Generally if you buy 7 or more bottles you have the right to the OWC ( original wood case), back in the day some retailers asked that you pay a small premium, say $5, if you were buying only 6 bottles and wanted the OWC.

I have not tasted the 08's but Jancis' reccos are certainly some good guidance. I always find Ch Poujeaux to be one of the great values in Bordeaux and d'Angludet seems to remain value priced. Value being relative of course.

Boyd Cantenac is one of my favorites and usually fairly priced. Leoville Barton is consistently great and the price is always fair for the quality and Pontet Canet is making wines that are arguably of first growth quality, certainly super second yet ht prices remain very competitive.


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