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Hello from Russia

Posted by ApelsecS, Oct 14, 2012.

Hello everyone, my name is ApelsecS and I'm alcoholic =D sorry for this joke but this was the first thing in my mind when i've seen this part of forum =)

Ok, I'm from Russia but stay half time in California, so I have a good opportunity to try both US and European wines. I'm not a big professional and started this hobby some years ago, so don't believe what i say in my reviews and try everything yourself =)

I prefer all kinds of alcohol, including European beer, Russian vodka, Mexican tequila and even absinthe. Wine was actually the last thing in my list of interests past years until i tried "The seven deadly zins" Californian zinfandel. This changed my mind and now I pay attention to wine too.

Now i prefer Italian red wines like nero d'avola because they have a bright taste like Californian reds but have less alcohol flavor as well as most European wines. I still love Californian Zins and keep testing well known USSR/Russian wines.

Most wines produced in USSR were completely different from the entire world as they were sweet wines and ports in general. We called some of them "artificial wines" as they were proprietary mixed and nobody knew what they were made of. On the other hand we had some really good wines for government that are still produced today and have a long history.

I could be wrong in many things but hope my wine reviews will be interesting for some of you.

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Reply by EMark, Oct 14, 2012.

Welcome to the Snooth Forum, Apelses.  You have written a fascinating introduction, and we all look forward to hearing your perspectives.  You appear to be very cosmopolitan, and, so, your opinions will be respected and anticipated. 

Your brief comments on wines from the former USSR are very interesting.  While there is a lot of expertise here on the Forum, I dare say that there is precious little from that geography.  I suspect that your expertise in that area will attract many listeners.  Also, however, many participants who will enjoy discussing California wines, Italian wines, Vodkas, Tequilas and beers with you.

Reply by JonDerry, Oct 14, 2012.

Welcome Apel, I think most of us agree with you on "the less taste of alcohol, the better", it's really one of fine wines greatest accomplishments, to taste so good and pick up so many elements in nature yet also carry 10-15% alcohol along with it. I suppose the same can be said for many beers and spirits as well, though wines other great and more significant wonder is that it can go with food so well.

There's plenty of love for Italian reds and European wines on this forum, California has many treasures as well. For CA Zin, we often talk of Ridge Lytton Springs and Ridge Geyserville, among others.

Reply by amour, Oct 17, 2012.


Let me know which Russian Wines you suggest!


Reply by VineyardVixen, Oct 18, 2012.

privyet! also interested in hearing your Russian wine suggestions

Reply by zufrieden, Oct 18, 2012.

When you are back in Rus, take a trip to the Crimea and (if it can be done in safety) , the South Caucasus.  I would be extremely interested in what you might suggest in terms of visits to wine-making regions of the former USSR as well as the now independent states of the Caucasus.

To begin suggest a wine for the Sochi Olympics; I am a Canadian so we have beaten up each other in hockey over the years...

Reply by Rich Tomko, Oct 19, 2012.

@ApelsecS, I'll be in Moscow for one night in november and wonder what wines you'd suggest I seek out.  thanks in advance

Reply by ApelsecS, Oct 24, 2012.

Thanks for answers guys!

Rich, I'm not an expert, so I just can give you some general recommendations - don't take cabernet or merlot. As far as I know most grapes of this sort were cut down during 90th, so they use young plants. Try saperavi, muscat or isabella better.

This one for example is from Ukraine, but this kind of wine seems to be classical in Russia too.

Reply by zinfandel1, Oct 24, 2012.


We have something in common. Zinfandel is what got me into wine many years ago. Still love zinfandel but have expanded into other wines. I always return to a good bottle of zinfandel.

Reply by Rich Tomko, Oct 24, 2012.

@apelsecs -- thanks, will be in the look out for those types of wines

Reply by ApelsecS, Nov 3, 2012.

Rich, I've found the one you may like.

It's easy to find in Moscow shops! Check this one.

Reply by ApelsecS, Nov 3, 2012.

BTW, I could meet you somewhere in Moscow and get one for you.

Reply by EMark, Nov 3, 2012.

I don't buy wines for their labels, but I just love this one.  Apelsecs, it appears that much of the label information for this wine is handwritten.  Is that the case?

Reply by ApelsecS, Nov 4, 2012.

ha ha! No, it's just a picture, except the bottle number - it's printed.

Reply by Maguno, Jan 25, 2013.

Hey APELSECS, privetstvuyu vas!!! Very interesting Russian style irony post. 

I've recenly been to the city of Izhevsk (the Kalashnikov's city) and Naberjnie Chelni (famaous for No1 Dakar winner - Kamaz).

Man, it still feels like communism in Udmurtia. People, especially older generation are so found of standing in queues, petiently waiting for thier turn to be surved. It's good. I like dicipline too... But, most of the time it is rediculous... For instance, when you stand behind the bar (lavochka as Russians say) and 2 ladies standing behind, supposed to serve you, sell something as to a client... The one that busy is chashing in is - ok, But the other lady just rudely refuses to serve only because it's not your turn to be stannding at the cashier. :-)

Whatever, enough telling stories about old Soviet habits. They are everywhere, even such post Soviet countries like Azerbaijan, Georgia etc... Besides, I was surprisingly amazed that today Russian consumers in Mid Russia, Izhevsk have pretty wide range of local wines from Kranodarskiy Kray province... I tried home made one like Muskat whites  Izabella reds.

So, nice to see that there some change in Russia in dringking of alcoholic drinks with decent quality.

I agree with you. it was different back then... even up to late 1999. 


Priyatnogo putiwestvia v Mir vina... Istina govoryat v vine.... No ya govoryu istina v tom vo wto ti veriw....

Reply by ApelsecS, Feb 11, 2013.

Hey, Maguno, nice to see you!

Well yes, Moscow is not a capital of Russia - it's a separate country. Traditions and tastes are absolutely different in different parts of Russia. If we are talking about wine, then I'd say the best European, American, Australian and local wines are found in western part of the country. As far as I know, my friends from the East don't drink much foreign wine because of it's high prices.

The price is high because the wine makes a long trip from manufacturer to the shop somewhere in Siberia... and I don't think this trip makes the taste better :) The last reason for not drinking wine - low wages in general.

So obviously, people prefer homemade wine or not drinking it at all.
Home made wines or any alcohol drinks are usually made from fruits or berries that are found in local area. There are hundreds of variations of any color and flavor! The most well known wines are made of apples, pears, blackberry, blackcurrant and blueberry. Grapes are used only in the South and mostly in CIS.
They all could be delicious if the alcohol level is low. I mean lower then 25. Usually the lower alcohol means the more taste.
You may find some good wine on fairs.

Reply by amour, Feb 14, 2013.

How about Wine made in Moldovia?

I did drink a few good ones!

I have a friend from Moldovia at work.  He often brings wine when he returns from visiting.

Reply by ApelsecS, Feb 15, 2013.

well, Moldovian wines were restricted in Russia since  2006.

I'm not sure If I could find them today here but i'll try on this week.

Reply by ApelsecS, Feb 23, 2013.

okay, I've checked some shops, including one expensive and one professional and couldn't find any Moldavian wine anywhere.

Sorry, can't say anything about them.

I have juts finished my last review for Russian wines, next year I'll stay in California and I'll make reviews only on them..

picture of my last purchase is here.

Reply by EMark, Feb 23, 2013.

OK, Apelsecs, I can see that the one with the Latin lettering is a 2011 Claret.  Frome the top of the label it looks like the maker is Fanagoria, which I would guess to be Italian.

Can't make out much on the two with the Cyrillic lettering other than 2011 on both of them.  The one has what appears to be a burlap label.  Is that some sort of collar around the neck of it? 

Reply by ApelsecS, Feb 24, 2013.

No, there is no Italian among them - all of them are from Krasnodar, Russia.

I have already made review on left and middle bottle before and now I bought them to keep until i come back.

The right bottle with a burlap label is a Cahor. Unfortunately I'm not a big lover of sweet and desert wines but bottle was so nice that i decided to give it a chance.
The thing around the bottle neck is a rosary because the label says it's a monk's wine...

here is the picture. Wooden, looks like real.

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