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Posted by perez22, Apr 25, 2017.

Hello i am new here and i am Max :)

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Reply by EMark, Apr 25, 2017.

Welcome, Max.

Please tell us what wines you are enjoying.

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Reply by duncan 906, Apr 25, 2017.

Welcome Max

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Reply by rckr1951, Apr 25, 2017.

Welcome Max - what have you been drinking lately and what are your favorites?

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Reply by GregT, Apr 25, 2017.

Max - welcome to the spam forum! If you enjoy wading through spam from Asia, this is absolutely the place to be! Two pages of it just to get to your post.

Sometimes there's stuff about wine here too!

Anyhow, tell us what you like and what wines you've had.

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Reply by Really Big Al, Apr 26, 2017.

Max, we are hosting a wine tasting party this Saturday evening and the theme is the Balkans and Crete.  Hungary is included in that group of the Balkans.  Can you provide some insight on wines from Hungary?  I have a link to some information but I surely will know more after the wine party!

 

 

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Reply by GregT, Apr 26, 2017.

What wines are you having? I would like to learn about those too.

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Reply by dmcker, Apr 27, 2017.

So Al, why did you include Hungary with the Balkans? Might as well add Austria and Bulgaria and Romania if you're going historical back to that old Empire. If you're talking wine similarities, then that's another kettle of fish. And of course Crete is way off in another direction. Why not Greece (not usually considered 'the Balkans')? Then how about the Levant or Turkey?  How many wines from each area, and what varietals? Etc., etc. Always curious how people put together their tastings and other programs, thus asking...

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Reply by Really Big Al, Apr 27, 2017.

DM - This is why.

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Reply by dmcker, Apr 27, 2017.

Well that's a bullshit map, in historical, cultural, ethnic, geopolitical and enological terms. It's also twisted a bit. Who cobbled it together??

Cut out Greece, Turkey and Hungary and we're getting closer to what has been referred to in the most contexts during the 20th Century as 'The Balkans'. The former Yugoslavia, Bulgaria and Romania, basically. Problem states, all split up and 'balkanized', and which used to be included within the earlier Austro-Hungarian Empire.

Wine grapes and culture differ drastically across them, and they have virtually no relation to Greece, particularly its south, as well as Hungary. You might as well have a tasting themed around 'The Wines of Western Europe' or 'The Wines of Europe's 3 Southern Peninsulae'. Considering the intense concentration of history and various diversities within this geographically smaller region, it wouldn't then be a ridiculous parallel to do a tasting of 'The Wines of North America'. 

;-)

 

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Reply by dvogler, Apr 27, 2017.

Take that Al.  Stop trying to promote fake history.  Oh wait, you were talking wine.

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Reply by boboretex, Apr 27, 2017.

Hello i am new here too :) Nice to be here

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Reply by Really Big Al, Apr 27, 2017.

I like the map.  It's very colorful, much like the labels of my favorite wines.  For the next wine tasting party, I might go with 'The wines of Western Europe', or perhaps just 'France'.  

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Apr 27, 2017.

Okay, seriously anyone who has a post stating "I'm new" needs to write a little more or... seriously, folks, please don't approve these!

BTW, did anyone else see a short outage this week?  I tried to link after getting a response to one of my posts and screen was blank.  Now that I am out of trial, things are starting to take shape behind the scenes somewhere else, but I still need your patience.

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Reply by Really Big Al, Apr 27, 2017.

Yes, there was an outage yesterday.  It could have been longer but the total site was down.  That's worst than just not being able to load images.

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Reply by GregT, Apr 27, 2017.

Hmm.  I always thought the Balkans were just the southern regions in the peninsula. An ancient wine region.

 

 

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Reply by JonDerry, Apr 27, 2017.

Ah yes, here's where I say some map makers have put the center of Europe in Hungary. Not necessarily Eastern Europe or Balkans.

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Reply by Really Big Al, Apr 28, 2017.

So Greece and Turkey are still in that map (perhaps not Crete); the main difference is dropping Hungary and adding Moldova when talking about 'The Balkans'.  Well, one of my wines is from Hungary, so I'm keeping it in.  However, another one of my wines (a nice one I might add) is from Moldova, which I didn't list.  I could switch it up, but maybe it's better to have this as a topic of discussion at the event.

There are too many conservatives attending the event, so I don't think Trump and his failures during his first 100 days will be discussed.  Country boundaries and things of this nature are good topics.

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Reply by dmcker, Apr 28, 2017.

There's serious controversy amongst geographers and historians about whether that part of Greece (and not the south even by the slipshod) and Turkey should be included--purists refuse to allow. Then we can get into whether Moldova is supposed to be part of Romania (or the Ukraine, or Russia as Putin might think). We need to qualify who's putting these maps together, for what purpose, just as we look at who is rating what wines for what purpose.  ;-)

Culturally you're talking about a mishmash that probably should equal 'Wines of North and Central America'  or even 'Wines of the Americas' levels. Enologically not far off.

Why not just call the tasting 'Some Wines'? 

 

 

But going back to some 'colorful' maps we can always call them 'German Wines.'

3rd Reich official claims (where you can see their version of the Balkans plus a Cretan anomaly because their paratroopers had to take it to offset British naval power in the Eastern Med), and home poster from the early '40s for the Nazi Youth to put up in their bedrooms:

 

 

Or we can just call them 'Roman Wines':

 

While we're at it, to hell with the 'North American' wines, let's just call them 'The Wines of Spain':

 

And finally, when will we be talking about The Wines of China?:

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Reply by GregT, Apr 28, 2017.

Well there is that. The Hungarians have a marker in Tokaj that they claim is located in the geographic center of Europe. That's why they hate when Americans call them Eastern Europe. Of course, it depends on where you start the boundary of Europe.

Balkans always seemed the southern countries to me but I don't think it's really a big deal. I will say, having asked a few Hungarians today, they are NOT happy to be considered part of the Balkans. But screw them I say - I'll call them Balky if I want to!

What's the wine from Hungary?

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Reply by dvogler, Apr 29, 2017.

I'd like to hear what Trump's opinion of what constitutes the Balkans is.

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