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Posted by cc527, Mar 21, 2013.

Hello! My name is Cheryl. A friend just told me about this site and I have to say I am loving it! I have mainly been a Napa Valley Cab drinker. Recently I have been introduced to Italian wine and have found I really enjoy it. So I am looking for some good suggestions on some Italian reds and any other good reds. Thanks!


Reply by amour, Mar 21, 2013.

Welcome CC527.

Search the Snooth Forum; loads on Italian Wines.

As for other reds, I suggest France, of course!

Then, South Africa.

Then Lebanon.

Our Mentors also travel to Italy and report back on their findings.

Have you had a Super Tuscan?

Happy to see that you are moving on from Napa, however great Napa is!!!!!

Wine lovers must never cease to broaden their horizons!

As a Law student in Europe, I was introduced to the Italian Barolo Wines and had a blast quite often!

Be sure to try Barolo Cascina Francia.

Be prepared for a treasure trove of replies, and enjoy you new wine ventures.  Cheers!

Reply by Welkja, Mar 22, 2013.

Italy has over two thousand grape varieties. Many are very expensive based on the success of the wine producers such as Antinori, or Sassicia. There are many good wines in Italy that are reasonably priced. Some of the wines from outside Tuscany or the piedmont are very reasonable in price and also be sure to try other grape varieties other than Nebbiolo or Sangiovese which are higher priced. Try such grapes as barbara or dolcetto. Tormeresca Neprica is a very good wine from southern Italy that is excellent and very reasonable. Other good wines are Monte Antico Toscana, Poggio al Tesoro 2010 Mediterra, Le Macchiole 2010 Bolgheri. I know this is very brief but search on this website for grape varieties you like and look for Italian wines and read the descriptions. I also go to as many wine tastings as I can in my area and make lists of those I enjoy.

Good luck,



Reply by zufrieden, Mar 22, 2013.

Price point may be key.  If interested in Italian reds, it is best to read up in depth, though not a lot.  I like the suggestion of Pliny the Younger (Legendo multum non multa, quotidie proficies).  In my words (not his), just a little study is enough if considered thoughtfully to improve on a regular basis.

I would look at the less expensive alternatives to Brunello in Tuscany (Rosso), try a few less expensive wines with good price to quality ratios from Chianti Classico like Frescobaldi's Nipozzano.  Don't worry too much about vintage just yet.  If wanting to test Piedmont wines, look at Barabera d'Alba from a good supplier then move onto Barolo - only know that these latter wines generally require aging.  These wines are but two of the many fine reds from Pidemont.

In the rest of Italy there are also many wonderful wines too numerous to mention.  Start with Salice Salentino for a warm, deep, vinous and medicinal beauty that does not cost a fortune.  End with lighter red wines from Lake Garda (Bardolino).  This latter wine is (very loosely put) the beaujolais of Italy.

This will introduce you to a small but meaningful fraction of the cornucopia of red wine that is Italy. And don't forget to look into the wonder white wines as well - though these require a bit more exploration.

Happy hunting.

Reply by cc527, Mar 23, 2013.

Thank you so much for your suggestions. I truly appreciate it.  Looking forward to trying Salice Salentino. 

Reply by Richard Foxall, Mar 24, 2013.

Barbera is good,but for the value in Piemonte, I love the dolcetti of Chionetti and Anna Maria Abbona.  Sophisticated but really approachable, and it's hard to spend more than $20-25.  If you go to Italy, spend some time at Lago Maggiore, and visit my favorite winestore in the world, La Cambusa.  Tell the Donna that the American from Snooth sent you--the guy with the two girls who love Papagallo Ristorante.

Reply by EMark, Mar 25, 2013.

Welcome, to Snooth, Cheryl.  As a California bigot, I endorse your prejudice towards Napa Cabs.  As a wine lover, I really endorse your exploration of other wines.

One of the most interesting Italian wines that I have had, lately, is called Badiola -- a Sangoivese/Merlot blend from Tuscany -- I don't know if you have Costcos near where you live, or, if so, whether you shop there, but that is where I bought this for $9.99.  After my first bottle, I went back and bought more.

I also endorse the above recommendations for Salice Salentino (if you are near a Trader Joe's. they have a good one called Epicuro) and Barbera--very reasonably priced good wines.

Reply by cc527, Mar 26, 2013.

Thank you for your recommendations. I look forward to trying the Badiola. Unfortunately the NY Costco's do not sell wine, but I'm sure I will fine it. Looking forward to trying it!

Reply by Nodakgus, Mar 28, 2013.

My wife and I also enjoy big Napa Cab's but what we have discovered of late is a liking of Italian wines such as Amarone.  Trader Joe's sells a very tasty Amarone for $19.99 (at least here in the St. Louis area).  Makes me thirsty just thinking about it.  Is it 5:00pm yet?  (somewhere it is I guess.  That is good enough for me!).

Reply by Richard Foxall, Mar 30, 2013.

NODAKGUS, I keep seeing that Amarone here in California at TJs and thinking, "Amarone for $20?  Is it worth a try?"  Now I know.  (I assume it's the one with the Gothic lettering--name escapes me right now.)  Sometimes they surprise me, like the Sommavite Brunello that was also $20, and often the wine is reliable if not spectacular.  If I lived somewhere that did not have a surfeit of really good wine shops, some of which actually compete on price (there's a post I need to write!), I'd rely on TJs a fair bit more.  As it is, you gotta keep you eyes open:  The other day they had the Turnbull Cab that GdP lauded here for the lowest price I've seen, but I failed to pull the trigger.  Two days later, it was gone. 

Reply by amour, Mar 31, 2013.

Just like on St.Patrick's Day, I saw and bought CONCANNON cab Glen Ellen Reserve 2010 (California), buy one get one free!


My friends love it!

Reply by cherulie, Apr 2, 2013.

Hi  my nameis cheryltoo!!!  I am a sweet wine drinker.  Something in my area that i buy often is Red Cat.  I know most wine drinkers arent into the sweet.  But i love this one.

Reply by EMark, Apr 3, 2013.

Cheryltoo, nope, I've never heard of Red Cat.  However, based on your being "a sweet wine drinker," I'm going to suggest something to you that is also in the "feline wine" category--Zeller Schartze Katz.  This is a fairly inexpensive wine from the Mosel region in Germany.  It may not be as sweet as you like, but it is a relatively inexpensive way for you to try something else.  It also will allow you to branch out from red felines to black ones.

Reply by Jdv1209, Apr 3, 2013.


I just came onto the Snooth site. So excited to have a place to talk with others about my love for wine. I am looking to find a Pinot Gris fr USA winery that I like.  I have mostly enjoyed the pinos from Italy. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Reply by EMark, Apr 3, 2013.

Boy everybody seems to be introducing themselves on this thread.

Welcome, JDV.  We are excited to have you join.  I'm afraid that I am not that knowledgeable in domestic (USA) Pinot Gris/Grigio.  However, that usually does not stop me from pontificating.  It seems to me that Oregon is getting some attention for Pinot Gris.  So, you might start thinking about that region.  Here is an article on Pinot Gris that was on Snooth about a year ago.  (I'm retired.  No, I really don't have anything better to do than look up articles in the Snooth archives.)

Reply by amour, Apr 6, 2013.

CHERULIE, are you referring to HAZLITT (Finger Lakes Region) Sweet Red Cat, made of Catawba and Baco Noir?  There is also Sweet White Cat!

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