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Snooth User: Gregory Dal Piaz

Here's an idea - Next time I'm in Italy where should I go?

Posted by Gregory Dal Piaz, Oct 21, 2011.

Seriously, what do you folks want to knwo more about. I may not get to Italy until next May but I thought this might be a fun idea to start kicking around.

Snoothers create an itinerary for me, I'll go to the wineries, taste the wines, ask your questions, shoot the videos you want me to shoot, and at it's essence deliver the kind of content you are looking for.

So what do you think? Good idea? Suggestions? How can we get this ball rolling?


Reply by spikedc, Oct 22, 2011.


Sounds great, i would love to know more about Barolo.I've only sampled at organised tastings and although i enjoyed them the problem is they are usually a bit pricey for my pocket. I've been told there is no point in buying cheap but there must be some good affordable Barolo's out there or alternatives?

Reply by rolifingers, Oct 22, 2011.

What about Lazio,do you think this region deserves a little attention?

Reply by dmcker, Oct 22, 2011.

Think you've done the Piedmont and Tuscany in a little detail already, Greg. Not that there aren't rich depths yet to plumb, but how about a little more off the beaten track? Sardinia would be interesting, as would Aetna and other parts of Sicily. If an extended trip you could hit Campania on the way south....

All these areas have interesting, tasty wines and it'd be great to have your eyes (and nose and palate) on the ground reporting to us!


Reply by luca chevalier, Oct 23, 2011.

First on Etna To check out how Nerello mascalese and Nerello Cappuccio can produce The "Best Italian Burgundy" Wine. Go to Tenuta di Fessina but do not miss The Carricante 100% withe wine.

Then you Have to move to Bolgheri and discover the small production of a true Bordeaux wine in Italy. Check out Fornacelle, a small producer that make the fermentation of the red directly in barriques, just like they have done for many years in certain Chateau of Bordeaux. Guarda Boschi is The name of the wine

Reply by Felis21, Oct 24, 2011.

Umbria and LeMarche would be interesting - in Sweden these are the most up-and-coming areas (together with Sicily) on the wine map, as well as new travel destinations. More savage than Tuscany for sure.

Reply by 100Percent Italiano, Oct 24, 2011.

Let's explore more the <<out of beaten paths>> in the Italian wine world: with more than 2000 indigenous grapes we have so much to offer and explore. Strong suggestion: Ischia Island in the Naples bay. A little paradise. The fourth of Italian islands in terms of size, in the past it was the major wine producing area in the South (they started to make wine when one of the oldest Greek colony settled in the island, about 700 years BC). When philossera stroked European vineyards, Ischia vineyards were attacked much later, so the local producers shipped wine also to the Northern region to replace the lacking supply there. Then suddenly the wine industry declined, leaving space to the more lucrative tourism business.  Some families still carry on the tradition of winemaking, a "heroic" tradition because of the territorial and geographical restrains. The local wines, mainly whites, fresh, crispy, rich of mineral and of Mediterranean notes, perfectly pair the local food (fish, seafood, cheese, tomatoes) and are made with autochthon grapes Biancolella and Forestera. Every sip gives you a breath of sea breeze, a taste of mountain and volcanic soil, opens to complexity of floral, fruity, mineral layers. You cannot miss a visit to the Frassitelli vineyard, owned by Casa d'Ambra winery estate: sitting at 1,640 feet above sea level, among green tuff and breathtaking views, it has been defined one the most beautiful vineyard worldwide by the famous Italian enologist Veronelli. 

Reply by dmcker, Oct 24, 2011.

Nice explanation, Italiano. Just one of the sites in Campania I alluded to. Somewhat similarly interesting descriptions can apply to the islands around Sicily, from the Aeolians all the way over to Pantelleria.

So how about specials on all the island wines of Italy? Sardinia, Ischia (or even Capri), the Aeolians and Pantelleria? Certainly Sicily itself deserves a lot of attention. Or the volcanic vineyards on Aetna and near Vesuvius? Lots of fertile ground, pun intended...

Reply by napagirl68, Oct 24, 2011.

Well... I am completely novice to Italian wines, for the most part.  I will just mention a region/type I recently REALLY enjoyed is  Lacrima Di Morro D'Alba from Marche.  An obscure grape, from what I read, but I find it extremely floral, tons of violets, and an deep earthy, slightly smokey base.  Very unique.  Have fun!!


Reply by Richard Foxall, Oct 25, 2011.

Wow, the participation on here is great!  Based on what I saw at VinItaly with GregT, morellino di scansano is the next highly publicized area, an interesting take on sangiovese (plus 15% of ANY other red grape, so lots of variety there, although I thought most examples with syrah, merlot or cab just kind of obliterated the best aspects of sangio to no real advantage).  On the other hand, Aetna seemed woefully under represented, with only one major winery at VinItaly, so if you want to be a discoverer, that's an interesting place. Given the likely bombardment with morellino, a guide to what's good there is probably in order.

I'm partial to Sicily, with its cheap, good, rustic, Nero d'Avola, and lots of other possibilities for obscure grapes.  And I think the problem with Barolo is that it is out of reach as a daily drinker and requires sooo much time in bottle before it really is ready... not so practical for those of us wanting to pop a bottle every night or so.


Reply by thisitalianlife, Oct 25, 2011.

Visit Fattoria Fubbiano in San Genaro - just NW of Florence and just NE of Lucca - while the IGT I Pampini is wonderful - we prefer the DOC San Genaro made from the "recipe" of the area!

Reply by thisitalianlife, Oct 25, 2011.

And as I think more about it - some of my favorites are near Prato in Carminagno. Take me away!



Reply by ledouxle, Oct 25, 2011.

I also suggest looking at some fabulous Italian whites like Vernaccia from San Gimingnano. You may want to explore different Italian wine making techniques (like how the Valpoliccella  isn't pressed for Amarone but then how the grapes are refermended and used for Ripasso) which is different than what we usually see in a typical vineyard tour.

Reply by Lindy Hemsley, Oct 29, 2011.

I really enjoyed a couple of gropellos from Lake Garda this summer. Such a beautiful region but I know nothing about the wines.

Reply by dmcker, Oct 29, 2011.

So Greg, any refinements in thinking you're willing to share?

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