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Snooth User: alavaughn

Long in the tooth Txakolina

Posted by alavaughn, Apr 8, 2010.

I got the opportunity to buy a bunch of Txakolina tonight at a great price.  However, it's all 2005 vintage, and that seems just too old to me.  I'm wondering if anyone has any insight on this?

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Reply by dmcker, Apr 8, 2010.

Who's the producer, and what's the color?

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Reply by alavaughn, Apr 8, 2010.

The producer is Amesguren, and the color through the green bottle is clear, but that's the most I can say about it..

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Reply by dmcker, Apr 8, 2010.

I was just making sure it wasn't one of those rarer tinted versions.

I personally haven't had much Txakolina with this much age on it. What I've been served in bars in Guernica or Bilbao or elsewhere in Basque country together with pintxo (pinchos, tapas with skewers sticking out) is rarely more than a year or two old. But if the price is 'great' enough, why not conduct a bit of personal experimentation?

 

This subject very much sounds like it's best suited for GregT's expertise. Calling GregT!!!

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Reply by dmcker, Apr 10, 2010.

I asked a friend who imports Spanish wines into the States, and this is what he had to say:

"Honestly I don't know about aging. It's an interesting question and I'm going to look into it. The problem with those wines is that it's hard to find a good QPR. We've looked at a number of them to import and some of them are really beautiful. But they're going to be over $20 and I open a $12 verdejo or a $15 godello and I don't see why the extra $10 is warranted. They're about $10 over where they should be right now."

 

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Reply by zufrieden, Apr 11, 2010.

Hey D., it's too bad that Pablo did not get an opportunity to paint you cubist style in Basque country (Guernica, in particular) - long, long after, of course, the bombs stopped raining down on innocent civilians. I suspect his death in 1973 at age 90 would have meant you would have missed the opportunity for modeling by some years.

You do get around, my friend.  As to the wine, tradition has it that this is old stuff.  But why not see?  A new trend could be in the making...

;-)

 

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Reply by dmcker, Apr 11, 2010.

Hey, I also like Collioure, on the coast of the Catalan part of France very much. P.P. was rumored to have spent a lot of time there, too, and I've seen some of his (not that he didn't churn out a lot over the years) work on walls in restaurants, hotels and homes there. One assumes he paid for a number of things in trade. I even had a copy of his Guernica piece with the flying (or rather exploding) bulls, and all, on my wall over the dining table when I was going to school at Berkeley. But no, I certainly wasn't around during the Spanish Civil War...

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Reply by zufrieden, Apr 11, 2010.

No, I would have thought not - participation in the Spanish Civil War, that is.  I'm not even sure dear old Dad would have been old enough for the Mackenzie-Papineau Regiment - the Republican contingent from Canada.

But there you go - it was an awfully long time ago.  Thankfully, the Spanish people(s) seem to be putting that time and the 35 years of Franco doldrums that followed behind them.

Anyway, could not resist a small reference to a 20th Century icon.

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Reply by dmcker, Apr 11, 2010.

Afraid most I know of the Spanish Civil War I learned from the likes of Orwell and Hemingway. Old folks in Spain still don't seem to want to talk about it now, though there aren't that many left, anyway, who were truly sentient during that era.

That 'icon' did hold a special place during the course of the Vietnam War, and I was at school towards the very end of it, around the time Pablo was kicking off. I did a number of things to pay my way through college, and posing nude for artists was one of the lesser. Didn't make it to Collioure until after that, though, and Basque Country later yet.

And yes, Spain is a very different place in the 21st century than it was in the '70s when I first encountered it. A lot more wine being made, for one thing....

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Apr 12, 2010.

I would be hesitatnt but I might buy a bottle and then base my purchases on how that shows.

 

I've been known to pop open serendipitous finds in liquor store parking lots just to make sure I don't miss a great deal!

And as to Spain, or rural Italy for example, being a very different place in the 21st centruy than it was 40 years ago. Well I can attest to that, not sure it's for the better, though most people in their primes today seem to think I so, and of course it is, there is something gone, lost forever, and it's only just begun to be missed.

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Reply by dmcker, Apr 12, 2010.

Ah yes, nostalgia for things of character and excellence now lost. Guess we're both getting older, Greg! Before too long we'll have drunk through all the wines from then, too... ;-)

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Reply by dmcker, Apr 12, 2010.

Essence of all our spotty advice, ala, seems to be to buy as few bottles as possible first, taste, and then decide if you want to buy more...


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