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Snooth User: dvogler

Merry Christmas/Happy holidays...get some good wine gifts?

Posted by dvogler, Dec 25, 2013.

I'd love to hear about people's receipt of great wine gifts!

I got a couple of nice Barolo's from in-laws and a killer malbec from Argentina (via Brazil), unavailable in North America.  I wish I could share with you all!

Be safe!



Reply by EMark, Dec 25, 2013.

Excellent, Darren.  We visited Mrs. EMark's family, yesterday.  Her parents are wonderful people and they try hard to give nice gifts.  I'll drink the wines that they gave me, but I doubt, very much, that I'll be posting here about it.

Enjoy the holidays, Darren.

Reply by dvogler, Dec 26, 2013.

Ha's okay to help them with some information!

I discourage wine as gifts, unless the person knows something about wine!  I guess it's because of parties I've had that people now know that I'm serious about wine and would know immediately whether any thought went into it!  I AM appreciative of any gift however, and sometimes it goes well in the cooking!

Happy New Year!

Reply by Richard Foxall, Dec 26, 2013.

Some folks brought wines over earlier this year that weren't my style, but my dad digs those kinds of wines--not to get so specific that they might know, but let's say very typical Cali white and red of a style that has been on the wane lately.  So I took them to his house and replenished.  Dad gets that I'm not a fan of some of is favorites, so he's not hurt by it.  (Heck, you could buy wines in that style for three digits, so it's not really a question of cost, just my guests not knowing my taste (or maybe they were thinking I would serve it to them, but since they didn't put their names on it and we didn't get around to it that night, I have no idea who they are).

Reply by dvogler, Dec 26, 2013.

Well, that's a good option Richard.  I'm sure it's not bad stuff you're speaking of.

My mother (she's pretty hardcore Mormon, so normally wouldn't enter a liquor store), bless her, has been trying to buy me wine as gifts, but my advice hasn't been remembered.  The poor old gal at the BC Liquor store near my mom's, has been telling her, "OH he'll LOVE this!".  I have to just tell her that I haven't had it, but I'm sure it's good.

The antithesis is...people coming over with something to just "open up" and have a glass and I know damn well it cost over $50.  I often will tell them to hang onto it (unless it's for a dinner) and save it for more of an occasion!

Funny all the situations that arise with wine, good and bad!

Reply by Richard Foxall, Dec 26, 2013.

When someone brings you a nice bottle of wine that cost them some money, they are thinking that IS the occasion to open it.  Because, frankly, we hold onto bottles like that looking for an occasion, and then we wait too long... worst case scenario, you guzzle it down with your burger a la Miles in Sideways, which is a lot less special than any occasion with a friend. 

I've got some very fond memories of Perrier Jouet Belle Epoque and a Marx Bros movie on NY Eve with good but not gourmet pizza shared with friends, and a good memory of Viader and pizza on the back porch of a friend's house in DC.  Why wait? 

Reply by dvogler, Dec 27, 2013.

Thanks Richard!  You've helped me accept my new motto for 2014....WHY WAIT?!

: )


Reply by EMark, Dec 27, 2013.

Well, I opened one of the in-laws' gift wines, last night--2011 Beringer Founders' Estate Cabernet Sauvignon.  If you're looking for a complex well-structured, age-worthy Cab, this ain't it (master of understatement).  If you want a fruit heavy but, otherwise. non-offensive, easy-to-drink, low-dollar wine, then you've hit pay dirt with this one.  We cleaned some Christmas meal leftovers from the refrigerator, and I have to say, this wine was just fine with my Tri-tip sandwich.  I'll probably finish off the rest of the bottle tonight--with some more leftovers.  (I think we're going to make tostadas with some leftover grilled chicken.)

I have to say that this wine is another example of a high-volume producer offering a brand that I would describe as pretty-darned-good budget wines.  Robert Mondavi Winery has something called "Private Selection," BV has "Coastal Estates," and Beringer has "Founders' Estate."  None of the examples of these that I have tried have been "great" wines, but I have never felt that I have been cheated.

Reply by Richard Foxall, Dec 27, 2013.

Emarkl, there's a place for those wines.  On a long flight to somewhere I'm not really looking forward to visiting, if something at least that reliable shows up, I'm happy.  In truth, a fair amount of Cotes du Rhone serves this purpose, but we just don't have the expectations for it that we have for anything with "Cabernet" on the label.  Leftovers are another good reason for less fancy wines.

DVogler, so glad I could help.  I learned years ago when I traveled that when somebody wanted to share something nice, the best response was a sincere "Thank you."  Even if you think, "Gee, I'm not really worthy of this honor, and it must be costing them plenty," they think it's a special occasion, so your obligation is to treat the occasion as special as well.  Maybe you are more aware of your own transitory position in that person's life, but maybe it's not as transitory as you think.  I remember two big blowouts in far-off places--Nicaragua and Tahiti--where I thought, "I'll never see these folks again, odds on," but I'm still talking about their great hospitality to this day, and who knows?  Maybe they are talking about the crazy foreigner and the good time they had.  When the host kills an animal for your enjoyment or opens several bottles of special rum, trust their judgement.

Reply by nddave01, Dec 28, 2013.

My youngest daughter  bought me two gifts in honor of my renewed interest in wines. A very nice wine tool kit and a motto painted on wood to mount on the wall of my wine/liquor bar. Very nice thoughtful gifts and I will have nice memories every time I open a bottle of wine or look at the wall. Emark will enjoy the irony of the slogan she choose so I am posting a picture of both gifts.=8-)

Reply by duncan 906, Dec 28, 2013.

My tee-total nephew gave me a bottle of St.Emilion which I very much appreciated and a chap at work gave me a bottle of Champagne which we drank on Christmas morning as we were opening our presents

Reply by vin0vin0, Dec 28, 2013.

Just got this from some of our best buds.  The four of us did a private tasting at the winery in Nov. 2010 so this was very much appreciated.  Here's to good friends!

Reply by EMark, Dec 28, 2013.

Looking forward to your report VV.  I am under the opinion that the Merry Edwards tasting room is the best run I have ever visited.  

Oh yeah, they make darned good wine, also.

Reply by dvogler, Dec 28, 2013.

That's all great gifts!  Thanks for sharing!  Yes's too short to drink crappy wine. I'm envious of Duncan's St. Emilion and Vino's Merry's NICE!

Reply by jescobio, Jan 3, 2014.

Merry Edwards!  So great.  Have you ever been to their tasting room?

Reply by dvogler, Jan 5, 2014.

I haven't been to ANY California vineyards.  It is a high priority though. 

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