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Snooth User: Stephen Harvey

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Posted by Stephen Harvey, Feb 7, 2017.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a 1987 red wine that is drinkable today

My oldest son is 30 this year and it appears that 1987 was not a great vintage anywhere

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Reply by outthere, Feb 7, 2017.

You aren't kidding. '87 was not a very good vintage. Here in Napa I would stick with stalwarts like:

  • Dunn Howell Mountain
  • Chateau Montelena Estate
  • Diamond Creek Lake

Still it's a crapshoot.

Maybe a Barolo. Like a Coterno Riserva Monfortino

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Reply by JonDerry, Feb 7, 2017.

See if you can find a magnum if it's a California wine....good year for CA I believe.

Ridge Monte Bello?

1st growth? Chateau Margaux

Otherwise agree to look for a Barolo

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Feb 7, 2017.

Thanks - sounds like a Barolo might be the best option

1987 was very ordinary here in Australia

Rivalled only by 1995 and 2011 [excluding Western Australia]

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Reply by dmcker, Feb 8, 2017.

Continue the research. May be some dark horses from areas that are ordinarily too expensive on release these days. That being said, it still won't be the best Latour you might ever have.

I'd add Dominus and Mayacamas and Mondavi Reserve cab to OT's and JD's '87 lists for Napa. Spottswoode was absolutely spot on in the past (sorry, couldn't resist) but have doubts about their longevity compared to others.

And I'd backstop with a good vintage port. Low production year and the iffy market at the time combined to mean most didn't declare, but still I've had several good bottles (see list):

  • Quinta do Bomfim (Dow)
  • Niepoort
  • Quinta da Terra Feita (Taylor)
  • Quinta do Panascal (Fonseca)

Barolo and Barbaresco are good calls. I had an '87 Gattinara last week with friends that was singing. Think my friend paid somewhere just north of $50 for it.

As a nice counterpoint to your native shiraz options it would not be the worst idea to consider the LaLas, which have always been exceptionally good from '87, though we're now talking five times the tariff of that Gattinara. Good Northern Rhone syrahs will still be vital, and it was a very good year for them.

Reservas and Gran Reservas from Rioja are also good for that vintage. GregT can provide more detailed info about other Spanish alternatives. I've had tasty Vega Sicilia Unicos from that year but that vintage is now nearly twice the price of the LaLas.

I'd also consider South Africa. If you're willing to spring for that Unico's tariff, then might as well get a Klein Constancia Vin de Constance. That will certainly be memorable. Plenty of reds from the likes of Meerlust, Vergelegen, Rustenberg and Rust en Vrede which are worth a plunge, too, and are considerably lower in price.

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Feb 8, 2017.

There is a La Turque going at auction my time - around 400

 

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Reply by dmcker, Feb 8, 2017.

Cheaper in Hong Kong.   ;-)

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Feb 8, 2017.

How much - have got a mate up there

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Reply by dmcker, Feb 8, 2017.

Click through on that link. Would be nice to access exclusive of VAT, of course....

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Feb 17, 2017.

Available US WIne at my bottle Shop - yes thats it [i hate the orientation it never works!!!]

 

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Reply by dmcker, Feb 17, 2017.

I'll flip the photo for you. Looks like you have some zins (Dashe Dry Creek Valley, Quivira), one Napa cab (Linnaea), some PNs (La Crema Monterey and a couple of Byrons), and  a hat trick of Bonny Doon offerings. Can we assume you haven't had these, but they are potentially within your price range? And that these are not meant to fit within the confines of your original query?  ;-)

 

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Reply by JonDerry, Feb 17, 2017.

Not a very inspiring selection there, I'm afraid.

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Feb 19, 2017.

If the consensus is they are not a great selection I will continue my quest

I had to refrain from the last auction mainly due to wine budget going on alcohol for favi=ourite daughters 321st party this saturday [100 young peole at our house - why did  I agree to this?!]

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Feb 21, 2017.

There is a tasting coming up in May here with 

Rajat Parr (Sandhi Wines, Domaine de la Côte, US).

Does anyone have an opinion on these guys

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Reply by outthere, Feb 21, 2017.

For Raj it's all about low alcohol, high acid. He was the founder of the now defunct In Pursuit of Balance trade group. Sandhi is a respected brand here. He'll probably pour his RPM wines as well which really don't excite me but the hipster crowd falls all over themselves for it.

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Feb 27, 2017.

  AU BON CLIMAT La Bauge Au-dessus Pinot Noir, Santa Barbara 2009 and 2010

Are these worth picking up at around USD 40-50 per bottle

 

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Reply by JonDerry, Feb 27, 2017.

Maybe the 2010. For Pinot I generally prefer Burgundy and some NZ like Felton Road and Escarpement.

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Feb 27, 2017.

Thanks JD

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Reply by dmcker, Feb 28, 2017.

Au Bon Climat seems to have gone off into some undefined, ill-formed, unbalanced identity-crisis limbo. They were interesting back in the '90s and forced me to sit up and pay attention but anything I've had since the end of the last decade has left me shaking my head with a puzzled look. Haven't had boots on ground there much this decade so haven't tried to talk to Clendenen and his stuff to try to suss out what's up. Perhaps they're a little like Cloudy Bay for me. '90s and they were revolutionary. Two-thousand-teens and I can't drink them any more....


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