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New Flight Ideas!

Posted by smithdaj54, Sep 6, 2011.

I love the flights on the site.  It gets me to think about trying new things and noticing differences in regions, but I had some suggestions for a couple:


  1. Washington - there could be several, and I can't believe this isn't on here, they're #2 in the US for production!
  2. Ports
  3. Cab Francs!
  4. Pinot Blanc
  5. Red Blends

And, as a side note, it seems like sometimes I rate something that is an exact match for part of a flight and it never adds to the flight.  I know that's fickle, but just a little feedback!  :-)

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Reply by Chris Carpita, Sep 6, 2011.

Great suggestions Smithdaj, keep them coming!  Regarding the wines that don't match the flight, if you have any specific examples (which wine and which flight), we can take a look for you.  Sometimes the wine info has to be cleaned up a bit - it affects a small minority of wines, but I know it's annoying when that happens.

Reply by EMark, Sep 6, 2011.

Chris, here is an example of the situation that smithdaj describes in his last paragraph.  Buehler is a Napa Valley based winery, but their Chardonnay grapes are sourced from the Russian River Valley in Sonoma County.  It appears that the Wine Rack Flight recognition routines are zeroing in on the winery's base instead of the grapes' source.

Reply by Chris Carpita, Sep 6, 2011.

In this example, we have "Russian River Valley" explicitly set as the wine's region, so that will be the region that is used - we actually don't have a data process that zeroes in on a winery's location, we sort of just dumbly use the region that's set on a wine.  If there's no region set, or it's incorrect, we won't be able to rack it correctly unfortunately.

Reply by ScottLauraH, Sep 6, 2011.

I think there needs to be a Virginia flight as well!

Reply by EMark, Sep 6, 2011.

Maybe I should not have tried to guess about the cause of the problem.  I know enough not to tell an auto mechanic how to fix my car.  So, let me rap my own knuckles for that.

Regarding the Buehler, however, to me a chardonnay from the Russian River Valley should be shown as a "Sonoma Chardonnay" in the "Chardonnay Chameleon" flight.  Yet, it didn't happen.

Not to pound on you, because I really enjoy the Snooth site and I really enjoy the Wine Rack feature, it appears that the "My Wines" listing in the Wine Rack is limited to 25 entries.  I'm I correct about that?

Reply by Mark Angelillo, Sep 7, 2011.

You should be able to see all of your wines in the wine rack. There's an infiniscroll feature - so if you scroll down more wines will automatically load in. If that's not happening for you we have a bug to fix. Give it a shot and let us know which browser you're on if it's not working.

I agree, RRV Chard should be a Sonoma Chardonnay. I think I see the problem with our logic there. Will make a note to fix it. Thanks!

Reply by anchca, Sep 7, 2011.

How about a Riesling flight where you try different Rieslings from around the world? For example: Germany, Austria, Australia, Oregon, Washington, New York etc.


Reply by Mark Angelillo, Sep 7, 2011.

This is really great! Let's all vote on what we think the next Snooth flight should be. We can use this thread. You can submit your flight idea by telling us the name of the flight, and which wine region/variety would be included in the flight. Let's have the submissions in by end of next week (9/16). We'll run the voting for a bit, and we'll add the flight with the most votes to Wine Rack.

Sound good?

Reply by Kristin Watts, Sep 7, 2011.

I would love to see flights of Aromatic white varietals...for instance a lineup of Viognier, Roussanne, Marsanne, Gewurztraminer, and blends of these as well! I know we are on the brink of red wine season, but Aromatic whites are always great sipping wines to have around at parties (and we are also coming up on party season with Halloween right around the corner, then the holiday season!)

Reply by Rich Tomko, Sep 7, 2011.

channeling CageyT, Nathan Ophardt, EMark and submitting - Finger Lakes Trophy

Reply by CageyT, Sep 7, 2011.

thanks rtomko!  Yes, a Finger Lakes Flight!  It could include sub regions (Cayuga, Seneca, Keuka, etc) as well as varietals.  There is interest in this idea, as registered here:


Reply by EMark, Sep 7, 2011.

OK, If you're looking for one idea, how's this:

  • Rhone Ranger( I am weak in this category, but here are some obvious ideas)
    --Cote Rotie
    --Chateaunef du Pape

I am suggesting this becasue I am quite ignorant on Rhones and a flight category like this would add fun for me as I learn more.

In the spirit of throwing out ideas just to get the creative juices flowing, here are some more ideas:

  • Dessert Wines (the problem here is that this can get a bit spendy).
    -- French -- Sauternes is obvious but there are lower dollar options
    --German -- TBA ($$$), BA ($$), Auslese, Eiswein
    --Hungarian -- Takaji
    --Canadian Ice Wine
    --NY Ice Wine
    --California "Late Harvest"
  • Sombody mentioned Merlot (I'm not real strong, here, but here are a few ideas)
    --French (St. Emilions and Pomerols would, obviously, qualify)
    --Washington (my personal prejudice)
  • California Pinot Noir  (this may be Pinot Noir overkill since there already are some other PN Flights)
    --Sonoma Coast
    --Santa Lucia Highlands
    --Sta. Rita Hills
  • Riesling -- A previous poster mentioned this as a category, I would like to suggest that I have had some excellent Riesling from Washington State.
Reply by smithdaj54, Sep 8, 2011.

I'm loving a lot of the ideas on here! 

I second the Rogue Ranger also, great name!  :-)

Might I suggest:

From Washington:

1. Cabernet Franc

2. Riesling

3. Cabernet Sauvignon

4. Chardonnay

5. Merlot


Cab Franc Flight:

1. France/Chinon

2. Washington

3. Virginia/East Coast??? (definitely weak in this area but have heard some good things!)


Pinot Blanc:

1. Oregon

2. Alsace

3. BC/Okanagan Valley


Reply by Mark Angelillo, Sep 8, 2011.

These are excellent! It's going to be a difficult choice. Keep em coming!

Reply by anchca, Sep 8, 2011.


I like all the ideas so far. It will definitely be a tough choice.

I would also suggest a flight of wines from emerging wine regions in the USA that would possibly include but not be limited to places like Arizona, Texas, Missouri, Idaho, Virginia and Maryland. It would also be fun to do something similar but worldwide, tasting wines from places like Israel, Russia, Lebanon, Switzerland, Mexico, Brazil, Romania, the UK and Hungary.

Another idea would be a flight of lesser known varieties such as Assyrtico, Mencia, Scheurebe, Txakoli, Dornfelder, Valdigine and Severney. I know there are so many more so any other suggestions would be welcome! I think it'd be fun to expand my tasting horizons by sampling something diffierent but I also realize it might be a challenge to find these more unusual offerings.


Reply by EMark, Sep 23, 2011.

I am resurrecting this conversation for a couple reasons.

First, in a previous submission I suggested using the name "Rhone Rangers" for a flight of from the Rhone region.  I should have realized that my name was not that creative.  Obviously, I had heard it before.  I still like the idea of a Rhone flight, but it might be better to pick another name.  Right now I am dry on that.

Second, I have thought of another flight idea.  Currently, there are flights for several old world countries.  There are, of course, other European contries that have a long winemaking tradition.  Also, it is relatively easy to find examples from these areas.  So, I propose a flight that looks at European wines that are not from France, Italy, Germany or Spain:

  • Continental without FIGS
    -- Austria
    -- Greece
    -- Hungary
    -- Portugal
Reply by ScottLauraH, Sep 23, 2011.

I like the idea of a flight from emerging US wine regions, such as Virginia and Texas as well.  The Rhone flight is also a nice idea.  How about Viogniers?

Reply by tabednar, Sep 25, 2011.

Being from Texas I second the Texas idea. I would be able to help with vineyards if need be. I have been to a few in the Hill Country and vaious random places. Whould be fun!

The more flights the better!


Reply by dmcker, Sep 25, 2011.

Lots of good ideas here. Seems like you could do a flight just from Greece, in the same manner as for Italy or wherever. Austria could be lumped together with Germany or Hungary, but Portugal is a very odd man out, and might either be lumped together with Spain or stand on its own.

If you're going to do Port, what about Madeira and Marsala? And if all those American regions, why not New Mexico, too? And if Cab Franc be sure to include the Right Bank in Bordeaux, as well.

And if you want to go more obscure, you could do an 'Asian' flight of Japan, China, India.

Small points, though, since so many good ideas above to work with, as I've already said....

Reply by tabednar, Sep 27, 2011.

What about Bordeaux Growth Flights. Would be a uninuqe award to have and hard to get:


First Growths

Second Growths

Third Growths

Forth Growths

Fifth Growths

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