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Snooth User: Gregory Dal Piaz

New wines, summer wines, what's everyone drinking?

Posted by Gregory Dal Piaz, Jun 15, 2011.

I've been powering through wines from Spain, South Africa, and Chile.


I've got say that of all of them the Carmeneres ahve been the most surpring. You've got to like a bit of herbaceousness in your wines, which I do, but in general they were some really distinctive and intresting wines.


For summer the Rose season is apon us but I have yet to be bowled over by any. Sauvignon Blanc has caught my fancy and I was really impressed with some from the Alto Adige recently, but the Mulderbosch I just tried today is a tried and true favorite.


What have you guys discovered lately? Or simply rediscovered!

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Reply by dmcker, Jun 16, 2011.

Had a lot of Txacoli yesterday at a new tapas bar. Drank out of monster tumblers-on-steroids. Love that acidity and clear profile with just that bit of spritz which's such a great pickmeup after a hot, humid, dusty, enervating afternoon...

Reply by Stephen Harvey, Jun 16, 2011.


Sadly well maybe not its Winter down under and time for shiraz, cabernet and fortifieds.

However, interesting wines in last week or so

  • 2008 Domaine Berbard Moreau et Fils Chassagne Montrachet

Great nose really intense aromatics, nice mouthfeel but perhaps a touch short on the palate, certainly nice drink for the price <$40. I think the excellent nose created too much expectation on the palate

  • 2008 Leeuwin Art Series Chardonnay - Margaret River

Outstanding, well balanced and beautiful toasty, honey nose with nice long palate.  An excellent Art Series and certainly worthy of comparison with Premier Cru WB's but it is ~$85 a bottle

  • Louis Roderer NV Champagne

Excellent NV and well worth the extra $ over Moet

  • 2008 Chateau St Jean Sonoma Chardonnay

I have too say I really enjoyed this, nice balance not too fat and buttery.

Reply by outthere, Jun 16, 2011.

The past few days...

2010 Abrente Albarino - Bright, light and refreshing

2009 Bedrock Wine Co. "Kick Ranch" Sauvignon Blanc - Complex for a SB

2009 Arnot-Roberts "Watson" Chardonnay - Full of WIN

2009 Gracianna "Suzannes Blend" Chardonnay - Tropical and floral


Reply by dmcker, Jun 16, 2011.

Would be curious for a little more info on the A-R chard, outthere....

Reply by GregT, Jun 16, 2011.

Some Carmenere - I think at that same tasting you were at Greg - and they very much surprised me.  I usually hate them but they've gotten way better over the years and I need to re-think it.  They had some decent Syrahs too.

For dailys, been drinking a lot of unclassified Nebbiolo -  Borgogno, Molino, Fontanabianca, Pio Cesare, Produttori de Barbaresco, Abbona, La Spinetta, Conterno are some over the past 2 weeks.  Not sure why.  And I must say, Palmina from CA can hold its own with those.

Reply by outthere, Jun 16, 2011.

@ dmcker -  Limestone vineyard. Golden color with a nose of green apple, pear and a hint of peach. Nice texture and structure. Full mouthfeel with balancing acidity, minerality and juicy richness. Stainless steel fermentation and neutral French oak. Napa Valley fruit.

Depending on your style preference they also have their Matthiasson Family Vineyard Chardonnay which comes from a volcanic soiled vineyard. Pale straw color with a mineral driven nose and palate. Soft fruit and high acidity. Same SS fermentation and neutral oak barrels. Sonoma Valley fruit.

Reply by dmcker, Jun 16, 2011.

Both look interesting. Thanks. I've got wide tolerance for chard styles, as long as the winemakers know what they're doing (and don't want to head for the DarkSide)...

Reply by outthere, Jun 16, 2011.

They walk on their own side. Here's a nice piece written in the SFChron about them:

Winemakers the watch: Arnot-Roberts

Reply by JonDerry, Jun 17, 2011.

I'm afraid I overindulged this past Sunday in catalina.  When I stepped in to the Avalon Grille, they had a bottle of 07' Anderson's Conn Estate Cabernet Reserve prominently displayed.  One of the next CA wines on my short list to try. It was about as good as you could hope for in the new world, CA style, but when I went ahead and ordered a 2nd bottle I was on my way to a much longer night than was needed.  Game 6 of the finals was also playing at the bar, which probably had something to do with helping me along.  Here I am 4 days later, still feeling the effects of what was probably some level of alcohol poisoning.

Reply by dmcker, Jun 17, 2011.

From two bottles of red?  ;-)


Outthere, I've been an A-R fan for several years. Think I posted on Snooth about them a couple ago....

Reply by JonDerry, Jun 17, 2011.

Well, I left out the bloody mary starter, intermitent sips of chardonnay, martinis, then finished off at a dive (marlin's club) with a black & tan and god knows what else.

Reply by VegasOenophile, Jun 17, 2011.

Summertime makes me crave fun whites.  I dig bubbles, especially Selim, made in the charmat method, which is a crisp, minerally, great fizzy alternative to Champagne and Prosecco.  Sauvignon blancs from New Zealand, Sancerre and Touraine are always a nice choice.  Vouvray and other well crafted Chenin Blanc.  Rose wines in the provencal style.  Light (usually unoaked) chardonnays, riesling, pinot blanc and gris.  All are very enjoyable once our temps get up over 100 and they just did.  Cheers!

Reply by Jean Rioja, Jun 21, 2011.

Try to get your hands on a bottle of Alma Tobia rosado.  It's a rosé fermented in barrels and is incredible.  They also have a white (Damian) that's getting a lot of attention in Spain but I don't think it has gotten to the states yet.  Salud!

Reply by dmcker, Jun 21, 2011.

Jon, yeah, it does seem you left out just a little. Kinda like my friend who did beer, wine and whisky, in that order, and was wondering why she was feeling particularly crappy the next day until I reminded her about the Sake after the wine and before the whisky....

Reply by JonDerry, Jun 22, 2011.

A lot was left out, but reaching for the 2nd bottle of wine was unusual, and probably led to the decision to hit the dive down the way.

Had a trade show in Las Vegas last weekend, so that sucked another week away, but i'm gearing up for a jaunt into Santa Barbara wine country this weekend on a 2-3 day mission...finally some fun will be had.

Reply by hhotdog, Jun 24, 2011.

Mulderbosch...been about a year...hmmm been waiting..  tis the season!...gotta say"riesling,riesling,riesling".  did i say riesling? the "dr" is in!   ok, maybe i left out some vinho verde?  been drinking some muscadet...2009 Vignerons du Pallet Muscadet de Sèvre-et-Maine Sur Lie Les Roches .  nice and crisp all about the minerals...


Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Jun 24, 2011.

I've actually had some pretty good 2009 California Chardonnay's lately! That is a surprise even to me. Going to Greece today, Santorini, so watch out for some Assyrtiko, and then stopping over in Italy on the way back, but don't know what I could drink there!

I'm going to try some wines this morning before leaving but haven't quite made up my mind yet what they might be. I've got admit that being forced to try all these different wines for work is actually re-expanding my palate.

This hobby of ours is just ridiculously fantastic.


Reply by Lucha Vino, Jun 24, 2011.

I've been enjoying some great Cab Francs from the Lake Chelan AVA in Washington - Hard Row to Hoe, Tildio, Wine Girl WInes - My Derby Wife and Kamari Black Label and Vin du Lac.  Check out the notes on my Lucha Vino blog.

Reply by dmcker, Jun 25, 2011.

Enjoy Santorini, Greg. Anywhere else in Greece? Utterly, barely describably beautiful island, but so are the rest of the Cyclades, and many, many others through up, down and around that peninsula (plus islands) of a country. Loved sailing there, landing and having shockingly refreshing whites and reds with all sorts of seafood, lamb and other meats, salads and grilled veggies and cheeses in that landscape.

A night or two ago had some mousseux and a lot of champers, my friend going for the bellinis but I quickly ditched the peach juice and had the good champagne (first VQ NV, later a shift to Grand Dame)  on its own. She was happy with the mousseux cocktail since it was too acidic for her without the fruit juice. Went out afterwards to see friends running a French restaurant (more bubbly with foie gras, etc.), then returned home to the GD on ice. Great night.


Reply by cjelepis, Jun 26, 2011.

Hey, Greg! 

Sorry I'm getting to this post so late, but if you're still in Santorini, there's a wine I'd HIGHLY suggest you try. 

Of course, the Assyrtiko is well chronicled in the wine world.  I'd recommend you visit Artemis Karamolegas at Thira Estate (also known as San...torini Winery - message me, and I'll set up a meeting).

But I'd also HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend you try the Vinsanto on Santorini, which is almost always overlooked.  Possibly some of the finest sweet wines in the world! 

Let me know if you're still there, and I'll send you to the winery where you can some of the best.

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