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Snooth User: jamessulis

No Grapes this Year

Posted by jamessulis, Sep 12, 2010.

Well, my experiment in the back yard proved fruitless.  I had a wild wine entangling almost everthing in one back corner so I drastically pruned it down to the nub.  Amazing as it was, a little bud poked out of the stump and in three to four months, I trained it to be a vine going East and West.  It took off like a bandit the vines sprouted every which way.  I coaxed the vines onto my horizontal wires and watched them run.  Big leafy grape leaves, enough to stuff and make Dolmades (a greek wine leaf stuffed with meat and rice goodies). I watched in wonder but now as of mid September, no buds (sorrow begins), no flowers (more sorrow), no fruit (final sorrow). Everything that I had read seemed to say to me that grapes make with the new growth. I followed that pattern of thought until now realizing that something went wrong. Perhaps the fruit comes next year?  Maybe so....I guess I'll leave it live and let it be and wait till next year.  I promise myself that if I get a few bunches of grapes I will either build a shrine to them or try and make a bottle of wine of it. I am not in the end really sorrowful, just a tad disappointed. Prior to massive pruning this year, the prior year I had beautiful lime colored grapes with a frosty blush to them.  Like the Chicago Cubs slogan, "Wait till next year" but they've been saying that for the last 100+ years.........I only have to wait one more year for my vine to bloom.

Lefty - The Great Pacific Northwest



Reply by napagirl68, Sep 12, 2010.

I think it was the pruning... I don't know much about grapes specifically, but I know when I hack back my wild wisteria, I do not see flowers in the spring.  That is because the blooms form from old wood (like hydrangeas).  Now roses are much more forgiving, and you can hack them back to nothing... but other plants are not that way.

You can research proper pruning online, or call your local cooperative extension.  UC Davis has a great one out here, and I have used them over the years.  They gave me the advice to pollinate my Rouge vif D'Etampes pumpkin with a paintbrush in the wee hours of the morning to get fruit to set.  They are also pretty renowned for their viticulture programs, so you may want to contact them.

Once you do get buds next spring, have you ever thought about bringing some bees into your garden?  There are folks who will bring them out, and who knows, you may find an interest in small scale beekeeping.  I have heard nothing but positive from those doing it... they say their garden in general has NEVER performed better.


And sorry to hear about your lack of fruit :-(

Reply by jamessulis, Sep 13, 2010.


Thanks for the Information and the time you took to write a logical solution   I'll check the Web for pruning techniques as you suggested. For now, the damage is done but, hopefully looking for next years crop

Lefty - The Great Pacific Northwest



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