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Snooth User: outthere

Oh boy, my wine arrived today...

Original post by outthere, Mar 19, 2012.

For the Virtual tasting this week. Ugh...

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Reply by dmcker, Mar 20, 2012.

It always cracks me up when people in Asia or other parts of the world talk about how racist America is. Certainly racism and related types of discrimination are discussed more publicly there than anywhere else, but that generally can be considered a sign of (perhaps relative) enlightenment.

Some of the most judgmental and racist societies and individuals I've encountered are in this part of the world, even if (or sometimes because, if you're a rule-of-law apologist) lawyers don't get caught up in the process. Koreans vs. Japanese, Chinese from region X vs Chinese from region Y (especially when different ethnicity gets involved), Chinese vs. the rest of the world, Malays vs. Singapore Chinese, anybody on that peninsula vs. Indonesians, Indonesians from Sumatra vs. any from peripheral islands, all of India vs. the Tamils, etc., etc., etc. ad very-definitely nauseum.

In Japanese the word 'gaijin' (外人) for foreigner is only generally used for Europeans and Americans. Other Asians are called something else, and Africans are 'kokujin' (黒人), or 'blacks'. Neither qualify for the less (but still ) pejorative 'gaijin'.

So tell your judge, Fox, if you ever meet him again, that all Asians definitely don't look nor are they otherwise the same, and they'll certainly be insulted if he thinks, insinuates or says that they are....

 

Back to wine, and looking at those BP photos, Fox, I realized I've had dozens of bottles of every one shown. That was the past, though, and I started wondering how many more I might ever have after RP and his minions get done supporting the Bordelaise marketeers in creation of the consumable beverage version of very fast sexy-sounding race-capable cars or very waxy long-stemmed cupped flowers of another century....

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Mar 20, 2012.

D, I'll go offline for that non-wine topic someday. The story is full of much more irony than fits here, but your own biases--the judge was a she--are part of what makes the story noteworthy. In any case, as I've mentioned, the Standard Chartered job in Singapore involved private banking for offshore Chinese.  You  especially can imagine the rest. Our pool of candidates was restricted by factors never allowable in the US.  A really bit learning experience.

Those bottles still cost a bit with the stains, D, and I know you got the BP email so you know the prices.  But they work for their intended purpose (if that really is drinking and enjoying) fine--unlike tulips that are only about their looks and have no shelf life to speak of. 

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Reply by shsim, Mar 20, 2012.

Thanks Foxall, I just signed up with BP and their selection is great! Last bottle is always fun.

Haha I am glad you recognise that. I was once told by my past advisor to never go back to the east because they are so rascist and sexist. Everytime I head back, I realise more and more how sexism is ingrained in some people's mind and they do not even recognise it. I am speaking just Malaysia and Singapore though. I spoke to a friend about China and the one child policy has been a gamechanger. And its sad but the how the history has been in Asia, I am not a big fan when it comes to Japan. Dont get me wrong but I have plenty of Japanese friends and enjoy japanese food, culture etc, I enjoyed my trip when I was there, but it is just difficult when history comes up and they wave it away like it is nothing. Oh well theres too much to talk about.

Now about the wine. I have more to learn from you guys. I appreciate the dissipation of knowledge here!

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Reply by dmcker, Mar 20, 2012.

Yeah, some ridiculously good prices in that offer. Kinda reminded me of a decade ago.

So what is the acceptable he/she phraseology these days? Default she is no better in my book....

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Mar 20, 2012.

Yeah, I would have done the same thing, D, and most judges are men, so it's decent guess. 

Shi, dissipation is what we do here.  (Even if I think the word you meant was dissemination!)

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Reply by dmcker, Mar 20, 2012.

Sure you're not looking for this word, Fox? From the Urban Dictionary:

 


Dissipulate    
(Dis-sipp-yoo-late) the only word that can literally mean ANYTHING you want it to mean, and still sounds really intelligent. It can be a noun, or a verb. As long as it is interjected into a sentence correctly and with confidence, can literally mean whatever it sounds like it means. The beauty is YOU decide! 
 
Nichole's shrink decided after her first session, that she suffers from a severe case of mental dissipulation. 

When you send your documents in, we can dissipulate if you qualify for the program. 

How dare you dissipulate my man, you skank!!

 

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Reply by shsim, Mar 20, 2012.

Haha what do you know, I learn about wine and then some.

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Reply by napagirl68, Mar 22, 2012.

Outthere-  LOL!  Just saw this.. Looks like an IV bag at the hospital.. did you hook yourself up? get a transfusion??   LOL!  

Seriously- that is wrong, and good you posted here as snooth can keep track of wayward shippers.  I can't remember the name, but I like this little wine truck shipper, based out of Napa or sonoma?? that delivers throughout most of california.  they do take CARE with their wine.  

BTW- unless it is designated as wine, no sig is required.  I LIKE that since I am gone during the day.  otherwise I have to have it delivered to the fed ex office and that delays my delivery by a day or two. 

Yes, Foxall, drunk cat on the front porch... hilarious.  Though my cat on my front porch (aka Garfield) looks like he's had a few already :-)  He is one mellow dude.

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Reply by outthere, Mar 22, 2012.

It was the Baco Noir too. Anyhow, after opening the package I think the damage had as much to do with the shipping container as it did with the handling of the box. It was a clear plastic clamshell insert in the box. Just not really suitable for cross country shipping. And no the box was not marked "Adult Signature Required" 

What really got me was that all my shippers have my garage door code and always leave anything I get in the garage, not sitting on the porch in the sun. This guy must hae been severely challenged.

There's always next time :-)

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Mar 22, 2012.

Baco noir, eh?  Hard to compare to anyone else's, since there's not a ton of it around.  (I missed the tasting, BTW--had to collect permission slips fromparents for upcoming puberty education at my kids' school.)

My two bottles, which I might try tonight if I feel better (been under the weather for a couple days) came in a perfectly fine shipper--the kinds with the cardboard inserts shaped like wine bottles.  Sounds like maybe the packing was done at the wineries?  Probably most NY wineries aren't shipping via air freight.

NG, is the shipper you are thinking of GSO (Golden State Overnight)?  BPW uses them, and I seem to remember you had an issue with your Scholium delivery.  They do great by me, as does BPW, but that's because I ship to my wife's office in downtown Oakland and (they tell me) I usually get the first drop of the day. Napa to me!  They also ship for Roar, I think--just got 4 bottles, so I might be able to check the box. 

outthere, that's sad that they have your code and didn't use it--but I suspect the damage happened up the line, or they wouldn't have bagged it.  And delivering it to the front porch, if it's already busted, is really no worse than putting the broken bottles in your garage. Maybe they really were looking out for the cat (and any diurnal critters in your neighborhood) by leaving it up there.

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Reply by JonDerry, Mar 22, 2012.

Love GSO, I even inquired for them to do our shipping at work. Seems they don't want to get involved in pallets, and want regular/daily business for individual boxes, which seems very tailored to the wineries.

When I get wine from my UPS guy, he's always making some crack about wine. Or he'll say he has wine when it's just a client return, jerk.

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Reply by dmcker, Mar 22, 2012.

So what did the shippers have to say for themselves, outthere?

Sounds like a form of envy, Jon...

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Reply by outthere, Mar 22, 2012.

Oops

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Reply by dmcker, Mar 22, 2012.

Don't think that covers what was plopped on your porch...  ;-(

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Reply by napagirl68, Mar 22, 2012.

yes, foxall, it's GSO.  I did have an issue with them lying about being at my home at a certain time.  I do recall that.  But since then, I have had good luck with them, and barring the one experience, think they are very decent.

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Reply by JonDerry, Mar 23, 2012.

OT, are you planning on buying either Ceritas offering on March 29th? Just got the e-mail the other day, though I'm guessing the August releases are more popular wines from them. 

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Reply by rolifingers, Mar 23, 2012.

This box must have been really tossed about and abused because these wines are well protected in their packaging when shipped.

That picture looks like a medical waste bag. What a class act by FED EX!

FED EX, when it absolutely, positively has to be there over night....No matter what.

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Reply by lakenvelder, Mar 23, 2012.

Wow, that is so sad. I am lucky that out here in toto land we do not have a lot of problems. 

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Reply by outthere, Mar 23, 2012.

JonDerry - It's real tempting. I'll probably spring for the Chard this go-round since I didn't pick any up in the fall. Love the Escarpa PN. It will be a gameday decision though.

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