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Snooth User: Gregory Dal Piaz

Pinot Noir GTi

Original post by Gregory Dal Piaz, Feb 9, 2009.

And so it goes, from the workhorse grape of Italy we know turn our attention to one of the greatest of the Vinifera grapes: Pinot Noir!

From Burgundy, Oregon, New Zealand, Portugal, California, Italy, Israel, you name it come great and unique renditions of this most persnickety variety.

Post your impressions and lets all keep an open mind. Pinot lovers seem to be some of the most passionate wine lovers and when it comes to their turf they'll defend it till the death...of the bottle they're drinking.

Uncork, share, discuss...Pinot Noir!

I'll start us off with

1988 Rene Leclerc Clos Prieur which was gorgeous on the nose with classic aged, smoked meat, mud and cherry fruits and while seductively silky in the mouth lacked a bit of complexity. Still that's splitting hairs since the joy in this wine was it's perfect state of maturity. Great in it's own special way.

Also on the agenda, a pair from Jadot.

The 2000 Jadot Chambolle-Musigny Les Amoureuses was perfumed and spicy/sweet on the nose with ripe, gamy fruit in a medium bodied package just entering prime time drinking. A bit simple but suave and elegant.

The 1998 Jadot Volnay Clos de la Barre had an amazing nose that was so poised and precise pumping out notes of anise, leather, strawberry, dusty mineral and floral tones that I while I was let down abit by the palate, which was lovely if still a bit on the tannic side, it didn't stop me from spending a lot of time with this wine. I look forward to trying this again!

Well that's it, we're on our way.

Post your Pinot Notes!

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Reply by Philip James, Feb 17, 2009.

Fibo - excellent, thank you.

Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Feb 17, 2009.

Hey Porto, that was great.

I hope you remember to cut and paste your impressions on to each wine's detail page so that every time someone searches for either wine your note can help them understand if it's the right wine for them.

Reply by Portoisgood, Feb 17, 2009.

ummm, whats cut and paste?

Reply by Philip James, Feb 17, 2009.

Finally got around to trying another Pinot, here's my notes for this one:

"Sweet fruity nose, its crisply acidic with a slight game flavor, lots of minerality and some red licorice on the finish. I like it, but its too rich with sweet fruit for some people's tastes, Im sure."

Monterey fruit often tastes like this - sweet ripe fruit, not sugary per se, just from fully ripe grapes that have had a very long growing season. I like this style, although its probably too fruity and straightforward for many.

Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Feb 18, 2009.

Hey porto,

Cut and paste is simply copying what you have written here and adding it as a review on each wine's individual detail page. Hope that helps.

Reply by Nicolaus Bauer, Feb 18, 2009.

Kent Rasmussen, Pinot Noir, 2006

When I looked up the website I read that the winery is specialising on producint Pinot Noirs. So my expectation might have been a little bit too high but I definitely enjoyed the wine.
Nose of black cherries, mushrooms, vanillia and smoke. The taste could be a little bit more fruity and for my opinion the aftertaste is a little bit to bitter. It is not overpowered and opend up nicely, but it could be slightly more powerful in fruit at the finish.

Reply by solomania9, Feb 19, 2009.

This is my first real foray into Pinot Noir since becoming a "professional" wino here at Snooth. I used to think that Pinot was too light and thin for my tastes but I've got to say it's really been growing on me.

The other day I asked Greg for a recommendation on a Pinot that would wow me, and he suggested a St Michael-Eppan Pinot Nero Riserva 2005. It was pretty great:

"Light red color with some soy sauce on the nose and raspberry and cola notes. Drying in the mouth and extremely well-balanced. Really love this."

And tonight I'm pitting two vastly different Pinots against each other in a battle royal, although after trying them both there's no comparison. The Jadot is refined and leathery and the organic American wine tasted like Worcester sauce. Is that normal??
"Mealy and hot with a persistent worcester sauce flavor. Never quite had anything quite like it, and in the future I hope I never do."
"Light and leathery with a perfect balance of acidity and sweetness. Medium bodied with silky tannins."

Reply by Portoisgood, Feb 21, 2009.

sorry I'm not savvy, I'll shut up now, though I did have a good Pinot from Hawke's Bay NZ........

Reply by Nicolaus Bauer, Feb 21, 2009.

Argyle Pinot Noir Reserve 2006

Very balanced Pinot Noir with a taste of black cherry and rose. 92 points WS for about 40$. Great wine!

Reply by Green Pea, Feb 22, 2009.

Ok, take this for what it's worth. Tonight I had a wine tasting at my house. The theme was predominately red wines. The first three wines were Pinot Noir. I am new at wine taste reviews but I'll give it a shot.

The three Pinot Noir wines were Mirassou, Castle Rock and Fat Bastard. While all three were enjoyed, Fat Bastard fared the best among the three. It just seemed to be balanced more so than the others.

The finish held on longer and didn't start off aggressive as the other two. Black cherry and strawberry with a touch of vanilla come to mind first on the nose. On the pallet the same comes to mind with the exception being the vanilla. We tried various cheeses, dips and vegetables with each. I absolutely am looking forward to pairing this up with Salmon or a nice salad.

This wine has stimulated my curiosity to try other Pinot Noir wines. I will buy this again and pare it up with other Pinot Noir until I find my go to favorite. Who knows, maybe it will be this Fat Bastard. We'll see.

Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Feb 23, 2009.

Nice work everyone! I'll leave this here for today before we move on to tempranillo and will be adding a few of my own here shortly.

Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Feb 23, 2009.

And away I go....

2006 Faiveley Bourgogne 13% $20
Lean, ungenerous and acid driven but acceptable, though I'm not buying at this price.

2007 Babich Marlborough

Earthy yet with good fruit this is a good value, entry level NZ Pinot

2007 Schug Sonoma Coast
Herbal with sweet fruit and a hint of funk in an easy styled package

2006 Ponzi Willamette
Earthy and ever so slightly herbal tones compliment the raspberry fruit on this easy styled wine.

2006 Johan Willamette Valley
Big rich oaky and extracted this bowls one over with it's intensity. Not for me but if you like them BIG this might be for you!

2006 Stoller SV Dundee Hills
A spicy wine with oak driven notes of grilled meat, black pepper and cola. A touc too sweetly fruited but fresh and easy in the mouth. Worth trying again.

2006 Wild Horse Unbridled Santa Barbara County

Fruit bomb alert. I don't like fruit bombs but if you do this is the wine for you. Even though it's oozes fruit it's still well made and balanced.

2005 Alma Rosa La Encantada Vineyard St. Rita Hills
Oaky and candied this is a weird wine. I'm not sure I could actually drink this but tasting it was interesting.

2006 Schug Carneros Heritage Reserve
This is showing a bit of age but offers good complexity in a varietally correct, fresh package. Very well made and subtly attractive.

2006 Fiddlehead Oldsville Reserve Willamette

Ok so this has some fruit bomob character as well but so much more. It's electric in the mouth with great complexity on the nose that features all sorts of medicinal notes that really set off the fruit.

2006 Benton Lane First Class Willamette
This is a bit of a mess, extracted, oaky yet not really well flavored with dark coffee and tobacco notes dominating the palate.

2007 Antica Terra Willamette

This is a crazy wine with strong arugula, candied anise seed and medicinal notes on the nose but it works, setting off the subtle fruit perfectly. A really Burgundian, slightly funky style for the adventurous.

2005 Goldeneye Anderson Valley

This is an oak bomb. Where's the fruit? Wheres the appeal?

2007 Roessler Bluejay Anderson valley

A junior fruit bomb this has tons of sweet fruit but is still balanced and bright.

2007 Roessler Hein Family Anderson Valley

This is a bit closed but has impeccable balance and is developing great depth and complexity already. Look to be super!

2006 Alesia Sonoma Coast
This is young but pure and balanced with nice tension in the mouth and wonderful aromatics.

2006 Roessler Griffin’s Lair Sonoma Coast
Big, round and soft but with sneaky strucutre to the roasted meat, cherry and oak spice core. Solid

2007 WillaKenzie Estate Cuvee Willamette Valley
This is sooo fresh, fun and delicious - and consistent. It's one of the best values in Pinot today!

2006 Antica Terra Willamette Valley
As good as the 2007 and more evolved and ready for prime time with a similar earthy, non fruit driven character that is compelling and not tiring to drink.

2006 Roessler Brosseau Chalone

Earthy and a bit more masculine styled than most Pinots this will blossom with another year in the cellar.

2006 Roessler La Encantada Sta. Rita Hills
Superbly pure Pinot fruit in an elegant, seamless package with wonderfully bright and expressive fruit.

2007 Roessler Dutton Ranch Russian River Valley

Just classic Russian River Pinot with a powerful, mouthfilling palate and deep, earth and meat tinged dark cherry fruit. It’s a winner!

Reply by fibo86, Feb 25, 2009.
Although the wine I'm tasting is a 2004
Prophets rock vinyard 2004 Rocky Point Pinot Noir.
At first when I opened this wine it was jumping out of the bottle all I got though was leather and spice,
Upon tasting leather, spice and acid (so I left it to breath for a while)
On second glance, great berry character and spicey with some earth chucked in for good measure, quite complex nose.
berry,plum and rich ripe dark cherry good acid and great length.

Needless to say this is another great example of Central Otago Pinot Noir still with a few years to go if you can help yourself?

Reply by jandtwines, Apr 22, 2009.

Just a few years ago, my husband and I were drinking about 1 bottle of wine per month. Then, we discovered the wines of Burgundy. OMG ... the is nothing to match the complexity and diversity of the Pinot's from the Cote d'Or! Just this past weekend we had an amazing 2002 Domaine Tortochot Charmes-Chambertin Grand Cru .... enough to curl your toes!

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