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Snooth User: outthere

Syrah Offline 7/19/14 Sonoma County

Posted by outthere, Apr 8, 2014.

Location is Forestville CA. in the middle of the RRV. I am about 12 minutes from Charles Shulz Sonoma County Airport (STS). You can fly direct to STS from SEA, PDX , SAN and LAX for a price or Airport Express runs busses from SFO and OAK to STS. The bus runs every hour on the 1/2 hour from OAK and SFO. The ride to STS is 2hr 15min. $34 per adult or $32 for seniors.

July 19th, 2014 3pm til...

I am heavy on Sonoma Coast/Cool Climate Syrah. You are welcome to bring whatever you please. I think Fox wants this to be a comparison to Hermitage/St Joseph so if you have it that would be great. I'm not turning anyone away at the door for not bringing the right wine. Every Syrah is right. This does not necessarily have to be structured, just fun. (Please be aware that you will be judged on your entries and the loser pays the food bill........... Just kidding)

Roster of Participants

  • Outthere +1
  • Mike Smith +1
  • Paul Gordon +1
  • Shawn Johnson
  • Lucha Vino +1
  • JonDerry +1
  • Foxall +1
  • GregT
  • LarryP +1
  • AlanR +1
  • DVogler
  • Joe and Kim - Late arrivers

Roster of wine so far:

  • Billecart-Salmon Brut Rosé
  • Under The Wire Bedrock Vnyd Sparkling Zinfandel (pending)
  • Mayacamas Chardonnay '99 1.5L
  • Halcon Alturas  '09, '10, '11, '12, '13
  • Halcon Esquisto '12
  • Halcon Prado '12
  • Copain Halcon '08, '09, '10, '11
  • Agharta Black Label Alder Springs '07
  • Pax Obsidian '07
  • DeLille Doyenne '06
  • Jemrose Cardiac Hill '07
  • Jemrose Cardiac Cuvée 
  • Carlisle Cardiac Hill '08
  • Riverain Cardiac Hill '11
  • Beaucastel Coudelet de Beaucastel CdR '07
  • Arnot-Roberts Clary Ranch '10
  • Arnot-Roberts North Coast '09
  • Bedrock Pleine de Chene Hudson North '09
  • Quivet Las Madres Hulda '11 
  • Myriad Las Madres Esther '10 or '11
  • Lagier Meredith Mt Veeder '03
  • Herman Story "On the Road" Grenache '12
  • Pierre Gonon Saint Joseph '11
  • Tardieu-Laurent Cornas Coteaux '99
  • JD - Jadot Meursault Charmes '10, Torbreck Run Rig '02, Big Table Farm '12, Gramercy Walla Walla '10
  • Lucha - Bunnell Family Cellar Horse Heaven Hills Syrah '07, Bunnell Family Cellar Clifton Hill Vineyard '07, Smasne Cellars Block 3 Syrah Lawrence Vineyard '07, Nefarious Cellars Estate Defiance Vineyard Syrah '12
  • Foxall - Cornas Alain Voge VV '07, Luke Lambert '10  + 1 mystery wine
  • DVogler - Cassini Cellars Collector's Series Syrah '08, Le Vieux Pin Equinoxe '10

The numbers are getting too high so I'm thinking we do some geeky flights for those of us who are wine geeks and have wine available for casual tasting in between.

  • Halcon Vertical from Halcon and Copain will be for sure flights
  • Everything else may be random
  • Mike is bringing 1oz measured pourers and bottle skins for the blind tasting. 


  • I  will be preparing pizzas and my cowboy skirt steak that I grill directly on the coals along with tortillas and grilled veggies. There will be apps as well as salads. If you have something you would like to offer feel free to bring it along. If you need time to prepare it make sure you arrive early enough to do so.


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Reply by Lucha Vino, Apr 8, 2014.

Hey OT,

Thanks for getting this re-ignited!

I am going to check on the date.  My plan is to make it down there one way or another...

If I remember correctly I have a magnum of Halcon 2008 or 2009, but if you have the winemaker lined up I should leave those at home and bring something from Washington!  People are making some really nice Syrahs up here in Northern Rhone style co-fermented with a bit of Viognier, 100% Syrah and Southern Rhone style blended with Grenache or Grenache and Mourvedre.

I am a sucker for any kind of comparison.  Verticals, horizontals, region v. region etc.  I would love to do Washington v. California or Washington v. California v. France etc.


Reply by JonDerry, Apr 8, 2014.

I'm going to try to make this for sure...

Expecting CA, France, and WA in that order. Hopefully a good Aussie or two as well. If bringing Paso, make sure it says Saxum on the label ; )

Reply by Richard Foxall, Apr 9, 2014.

I'll double check the schedule, but sounds highly likely.  I can also transport a few people from Oakland. 

OT is being modest about the cooking.  He's terrific.  I vote for some kind of grilled lamb or merguez as part of it.  I'll also put something together to bring.

I've got some '07 Cornas I would be happy to contribute, (Also '09 and '10, but those are going to be pretty young, but I could bring them up ahead of time and have OT decant.) Also some Rockpile Syrah from various years.  I think I'm close to out of C-R, but there's one '07 and a '10 (decant or no, that '10 is probably a non-starter.)

I agree to fun over any particular structure.  It's way too informal to draw major conclusions, but I think the thought I had was whether the New World can make a really N. Rhone styled wine (and I'm thinking more C-R/Herm/Cornas than St. Jo) that will make forgoing those pricey French bottles tolerable.  The limitation is that most of us don't have those La-La-La wines to put into the competition.  Having gone on a bit of a syrah bender over the last couple weeks, I definitely feel there's a good meaty style that can be made in at least a couple places in California--I've had good examples from Jemrose in Bennett Valley and from the Sierra Foothills.

Lucha, I'm really hoping you'll make it, and I hope you will seek out some WA syrah that convinces me.  So far, I haven't had any (limited experience, to be sure) that made a very good impression.

Reply by outthere, Apr 9, 2014.

So, does the date work? Seems to work for my friends as well.

Reply by GregT, Apr 9, 2014.

Sounds like a good plan. Too bad it's so far for so many people or we could do four or five of these by July!

As to what to bring, the only American Syrahs I have are Cayuse from WA or those I mentioned from Napa, but since you guys seem to have the US covered I'll bring something else.

I assume these will be rather young wines, as in no more than 10-15 years old? Older would be cool if anyone has any - that's when Syrah gets really interesting.

Reply by dmcker, Apr 10, 2014.

Unfortunately I won't be able to make it, but will be watching with interest from afar. Who knows, maybe could do something virtual via Skype (though obviously unwieldy in that type of gathering) or just even a threadpost after the fact. I'd only be able to pull French or Aussie syrahs--very few CA syrahs in Tokyo and I can't remember seeing any from WA. That being said, there are more American syrahs here than Bourgueil cab francs, that's for sure!  ;-(

Not really my place to suggest this to you, Greg, but I would be interested to hear the group's take on Cayuse. Unless Lucha will be bringing some down...

Reply by JonDerry, Apr 10, 2014.

I'll second that Cayuse Greg...would love to try one.

Reply by Richard Foxall, Apr 10, 2014.

GregT: Bring the Cayuse! And then find a locale in SD and we'll do one down there sometime.  After all, Lingprof and Emark are right up "the 5" as they say down there, and JD not that far either.  Nothing better than flying in and out of the crazy SD airport--I'd probably come in the fall or winter.

I do also think something with a bit more age would be cool, but I can try to locate those via Benchmark, too.  Heck, maybe I'll just invite David Parker if he's in town anyway...

Okay, now it's time for OT to start making the assignments.  We can't just drink your wine, although there's a lot of us who have mostly Syrah that you recommended.  Feel free to look in my CT and take your pick.

Reply by EMark, Apr 10, 2014.

Actually, being inlanders, it would be a bit more accurate to say that LingProf and EMark are "up the 15" from GregT.  JonDerry is, in fact, "up the 5."

OT, I regret to report that July 19 is not going to work for Mr. & Mrs. EMark.  I will have to experience this one vicariously.

Reply by JonDerry, Apr 10, 2014.

Any other dates around that time work, Mark. i.e. 7/26?

Reply by outthere, Apr 10, 2014.
Sorry to hear that Mark. We'll pop a few in your honor!
Fox this is not school, I am not assigning homework and there will be no test afterwards. We will deal with what people bring and set up flights accordingly. Once each of you decide on what you will bring we can add it to the OP. We can source bottles to fill gaps if need be. Bring whatever you feel will best represent the style you want to share. 
Can people please chime in if they are coming stag or +1. The list is at 12 right now.
As for accommodations I have a king bed in the guest bedroom and can pump up the Queen air bed as well. Y'all can fight over them amongst yourselves ;)
For starters I still have that mag of 1999 Mayacamas Chard and this time I can't forget to bring it!  We'll find some nice bubbles as well.
Reply by GregT, Apr 10, 2014.

I will be alone.

Reply by outthere, Apr 11, 2014.

You'll have us Greg!

OP updated.

Reply by GregT, Apr 11, 2014.

For which I am eternally grateful.

But you guys are so US-centric!  I'll bring a Cayuse since that's the demand. But Syrah CAME from the north Rhone. Seems like we should have something from there. Maybe I'll bring something extra.

Reply by outthere, Apr 11, 2014.

Correction, I am Cali-Centric. Those are the wines I am thinking of opening. All my Northern Rhone wines are gone. It's up to the rest of you to fill some gaps.

Reply by Lucha Vino, Apr 11, 2014.

I am in and will be bringing Mrs. Lucha Vino along.  We are going to make it a several day stay so we can visit Sonoma etc.  Looking forward to meeting on my Snooth Friends IRL (in real life)!

I don't have any Cayuse in my cellar.  I will bring a couple of nice Washington Syrah representatives for the party.


Reply by Richard Foxall, Apr 15, 2014.

Okay, I'm not bringing ANY Cali Syrah because it's duplicative of OT for the most part.  And because we need some N. Rhone, of course.  So I'm probably going to bring a bottle of 2007 Alain Voge Cornas Vielles Vignes.  And I'll probably bring it by ahead of time so OT can decant it ahead of time, because my expectation is that it might still be pretty rough.  I've also got an '07 Cote Rotie Cote Rozier from Bonnefond that I could kick in.  I can't vouch for either wine because I've been keeping them for just such an occasion, but they should be fairly representative. 

Reply by JonDerry, Apr 15, 2014.

I'll look to bring a N Rhone from the 90's and an Aussie.

Reply by dmcker, Apr 16, 2014.

JD, if you want to get a French-influenced Oz version you need look no further than a recent Wally's offering:  Terlato Chapoutier.  If I were going I'd be tempted to take that as well as another bottle each from the northern Rhone and Oz...

Reply by JonDerry, Apr 16, 2014.

Thanks for the tip however I'm biased against Chapoutier so I'll have to see if I can manage to break that. Just thinking that Gramercy or Betz from WA should also be included. Was thinking Jamet and Torbreck for the others, though still lots of time.

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