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Wine Competition 2015

Posted by Really Big Al, Jan 29, 2015.

Check this out, you central-California folks.  

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Reply by dmcker, Jan 29, 2015.

A couple of things, Al!  ;-)

First, SanFran is not considered Central California by anyone. It's Northern California. Don't think anyone on these boards is from Central CA at moment. Either NorCal or SoCal (or someone offshore like me that used to be both).

Second, those results? Ya gotta be kiddin'! By 'Sweepstakes Winners' do they mean all entrants got a ticket and the winners were then picked out of a fishbowl? Or maybe the judges weren't spitting??

I'm waiting with bated breath for the NorCal contingent to weigh in....

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Reply by EMark, Jan 29, 2015.

They have a Label Sweepstakes winner?

Interesting.

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Reply by GregT, Jan 29, 2015.

"...the largest competition of American wines in the world and presented by BevMo!,"

Pretty much all you need to know.

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Reply by dvogler, Jan 30, 2015.

I don't think any other country has a contest for American wines.  Why can't they just say "in the US"?

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Jan 30, 2015.

Used to be a pretty well regarded "competition."  Both the paper and the competition have sunk, the competition more so because the paper was never better than mediocre.  The Chron lost its chance to be good when the Examiner folded.  Instead of picking up the good staff from the Ex, they fired their best reporters in a cost cutting move and pretty much hired people who wrote classified ads and a bunch of Willie Brown's ex-girlfriends.  His only intelligent ex-g/f is currently the attorney general of California.  With all his clout behind you, you have to be pretty bad to not do better than a lousy journalism job.  Corporate sponsorship ruined the wine competition, ya think?  What a shock. 

Funny thing is, the current wine writer for the Chron is considered pretty sharp.  He's a big advocate for "new wave" Cali winemaking.  Yeah, I know, in music, new wave was an evolutionary dead end about thirty years ago.  Viva Romeo Void. 

If you want to get technical, SF is at the top of the middle third of the state.  Folks from Humboldt consider it not Northern California.  They would start that at about the southern end of Sonoma.  But since civilization ends (mercifully*) somewhere around Cloverdale, everyone else considers SF Northern California.  Central Coast would be Santa Barbara to Monterey or, at the outside, Santa Cruz.  Central California is more like the "midwest," as it's the inland area, aka Central Valley, but you hardly hear the expression Central California, since people tend to identify as coastal (and hence Central Coast) or inland.  In any case, it's not important, and wine competitions might be the only thing less interesting than scores.  The glory of the Internet is that GregT, GdP, OT, JD, Lucha, DV, Madmanny, EricGuido, me, etc, have tasted together in various combinations and can now rely on what we know of each other's palates. 

*I say mercifully because I am thrilled to live in a state which has a huge amount of honest-to-goodness wild space not too far from where I am.  Except for the odd stop by the highway and the scars of our consumption (highways, dams and clearcuts), there's an awful lot of glorious nothing past the turn-off for Mendocino.

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Reply by Really Big Al, Jan 30, 2015.

You guys are tough on details that don't matter sometimes.  I used to live in Southern California, the last stint from 1973 to 1991.  Long enough to understand the state and to have traveled through quite a bit of it.  I figured San Francisco was just within the boundary of being Central California, and Richard supports my assessment.  I do consider areas north of the San Francisco Bay to be Northern California if it matters to anyone.  

Here's an interesting factoid; back in the 1980's I rode my CB650 up the coast and when I crossed the San Mateo Bridge, I went the fastest I have ever gone on a motorcycle - 100 MPH.  I did it there because nobody could pull out of a side street in front of you and it wasn't likely a cop could catch you if he was going the opposite direction.  I was a bit of a dare devil back then.  Now I'm content to keep my speed below 70 MPH on my Harley.

It's sad that the competition I posted about here is not much of one after all.  I had no history with the paper or the contest, but now I know.  

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Reply by dmcker, Jan 30, 2015.

"*I say mercifully because I am thrilled to live in a state which has a huge amount of honest-to-goodness wild space not too far from where I am.  Except for the odd stop by the highway and the scars of our consumption (highways, dams and clearcuts), there's an awful lot of glorious nothing past the turn-off for Mendocino."

 

When I was living (or have visited since then) in CA, I've always known how to get to a place within 30mins (often far less) of wherever I was where I could do a 360 and see no people at all. Good luck with that where I am now.

Al, the devil is in the details, with winemaking, geography, microclimates, surfbreaks, newspaper staffing and so many other things. I stand by my statement and the need to make it. Fox is entirely right that anyone I know, too, who's ever used the term 'central CA' was usually talking about the Central Valley. I can remember when NorCal made a mildly serious effort to secede from SoCal. They were keeping everything down to Big Sur, but also wanted to gerrymander Santa Barbara in somehow. The rest of the state could (and was likely to) go to hell as far as they were concerned...

 

 

 

"...the largest competition of American wines in the world and presented by BevMo!,"

Pretty much all you need to know.

 

Greg, too bad NG isn't showing up here anymore. One of the major reasons why I posted the link to the judges above was so she might see the photo of her personal favorite, Wilfred Wong. I believe he was involved somehow in the founding of the competition back in the mists of the late 20th century. Which makes me wonder why Fox would talk about it as having been highly regarding sometime back when...

 

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Reply by dvogler, Jan 30, 2015.

DM,

I lived in Redding in 89 and 90 and remember the talk of secession.  It was mostly about water. 

Let's not get Al going.  I think he could drive us to drink expounding on the minutiae of particle physics or other esoteric mathematical realms.

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Reply by GregT, Jan 30, 2015.

They were still talking about it this year. One guy was trying desperately to get it on the ballot. The idea is to make five states out of CA. People in SF and the Bay Area apparently regard South Cal the way New Yorkers regard the southern Atlantic states - rubes and military types lacking sophistication.

I don't know how true any of that is but apparently there are some people who very seriously think it would be better to break the state up because the interests of the different regions are at odds with each other.

Maybe you could make the same argument about the entire country. But maybe people could simply come up with better government and figure out how to make it work.

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Reply by Really Big Al, Jan 30, 2015.

They should wait for the next big earthquake and see which parts fall off into the Pacific.  Then a vote could be put forth for how to divide up what remains (hopefully Napa and Sonoma).  :-)

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Reply by EMark, Jan 30, 2015.

I'm waiting for the next "big one" where everything east of the San Andreas fault falls into the Atlantic.

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Reply by outthere, Jan 30, 2015.

LOL


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